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« on: January 27, 2003, 04:20:34 PM »

The General Programming forum is still missing, so I beg your pardon for posting this message here.

Well, I don't know where I heard that you can embed fonts to a HTML document so people who don't have them automaticly download and your web is shown correctly. Can it be done? how?

Thanks.

EDITED: Don't bother, I solved it... Maybe I should've made the Google search before posting here HEHEHEHEH Tongue

Anyway, if anyone finds it interesting, I can provide the links I found where I learn how to embed fonts in your webs. Get rid of verdana/arial!! Cheesy try sumthin' new Wink
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2003, 08:32:52 PM »

why would you want any other font?  embeded fonts just mean a bigger download...
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2003, 11:08:03 AM »

I'm fed up with the 5 fonts found in every web page.

Anyhow, I have compressed my font and it takes 20 K.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2003, 04:01:18 PM »

Still... fonts doesn't make a good layout  per se.  Tongue

Usually the best fonts used for "normal" text (not titles, headlines and the such) can be classified on 3 groups: serif (like Times New Roman), sans-serif (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana) and monospace / typewriter (Courier). These are the most legible ones at smaller font sizes... so why bother? You can perfectly make very interesting pages using these "dull" fonts...
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2003, 06:38:54 PM »

I know.

Yeah, sure, sure...

Yeah.

Well, I know...

Oh, well, the thing is that I found a font that rocks and I like it. I am free. It looks really good. It is very legible...... I like it, and that's what matters. The download is 10 Kb, it is stored in your temporal files like images and such, and it is slightly deleted when you exit the web...

So what's the problem ? Cheesy

When I finish the placeholder I'll post the URL and you'll see why I chose that font. I like it. I just was fed up with verdana and tahoma.

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Look:



I think it looks really good, doesn't it?

Please, now seriously... If you consider this font disgusting tell me do. I need this kind of feedback. Maybe it looks fine in my computer but not in yours.

Check it out the placeholder here: http://usuarios.lycos.es/qbsux
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2003, 07:56:54 PM »

yeah, it sorta looks low-res and not any more complex than arial/helvatica.  but that depends on if it's a style choice.  if you're going to go retro-looking it might be a good look (though terminal is on just about every computer wink-wink-qboho)
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2003, 08:30:03 PM »

Yeah, definitely I will go retro-style. In fact, that font comes with quicktime Wink

What I am interested is about that font looks the same in your system, or it looks screwed or illegible.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2003, 11:40:06 PM »

Looks like a goddamned Spectrum.

For short:

Question? Answer.
Nice font? Nice.
Legible and practical? Yep.
Works on your system? No. It doesn't load a single shit. (Win98 + IE5, the dreaded duo)
Then WTF are you seeing? A screwed page that uses Times New Roman.

Let's see...

Code:
<STYLE TYPE="text/css">
<!-- /* $WEFT -- Created by: Na Than Assh Antti (na_th_an@hotmail.com) on 28/01/03 -- */
  @font-face {
    font-family: Sydnie;
    font-style:  normal;
    font-weight: normal;
    src: url(fonts/SYDNIE1.eot);
-->
</STYLE>


...maybe's that relative URL... dunno... (er... try ./fonts/sydnie1.eot)
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2003, 11:50:13 PM »

Okay. I'll fix it tomorrow. Thaks for the feedback.

EDITED: I changed it. If it still doesn't show well, please tell me and I'll try the complete URL.

(did you know that these style lines were generated automaticly by the font packer? (done by microsoft... uh, forget it) ).
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2003, 12:06:15 AM »

Well, in the words of MiiJaySung:

IE 5.0 is crap...

Message:
5.5. fixes the billins of IE 5 bugs with CSS and JS
 
That's it, a stupid error regarding IE5 and CSS. So don't worry, it will not work anyways. :-?
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2003, 12:24:57 AM »

Ok. Thanks anyway, man.

Anyhow, tomorrow I'll go to my college and test it there. I think they have v.6

The odd thing is that WEFT assures that the font feature works with Netscape 4.6+ and MSIE 4.0+... Maybe the font feature DO work if you don't use CSS, so I better look for some info about including fonts *without* using CSS.

Thanks again.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2003, 01:57:44 AM »

Most pages use a non-serif font for the body of text, since their the easiest on the eyes when reading off a screen, (compared to Times being more elegant on paper) and images for titles/banners. The forum case is a little different, of course...
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2003, 12:32:29 PM »

Im not really sure if its loking like its supposed to be, but i tried mozilla and it looked the same as ie, except the text was going through the tables.....


But the good news, for some great reason the annoying flash/javascript/whatever the hell there called ads dont load up in ie!!!!!!!! Wohoooo!
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2003, 02:08:51 PM »

Those adds don't show probably 'cause you have a restictive security setting. And maybe that's because the fonts doesn't load in your system.

Could you check in the security levels configuration if "download fonts" is checked?

It is in mine, and I can see those custom fonts.

Please check this URL: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/demos/1/demo1.htm?fname=%20&fsize=

It is the demo in the microsoft size about using custom fonts. If you see custom fonts here, then my page is not working. If you don't, then it has to do with your security settings. Can you see custom fonts here? (You can tell if you do if you see the bottle of wine in the lower, right end, big bold typography in the title and scripted fonts in the "Bon Apetit" text in the bottom of the page).

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Hehehehe - I'm a stupid Wink I mistook the filename. Well, WEFT did, 'cause it generated "SYDNIE1.eot" in its CSS output but created the file "SYDNIE0.eot"... Intelligent programs.

I think I've fixed everything. Now it *should* work Wink
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2003, 03:23:37 PM »

Na Than, it works now. But only the side bar and main entrance. It didn't work before. Looks cool.
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