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matt2jones
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2005, 06:37:25 PM »

actually I listened to In Utero for the first time last night... or the night before, and it sounded okay to my drunken ears.  I've always been interested in Nirvana, but I've never been able to make myself like them...  So much potential wasted on stupid comedy and being 'weird'...  and slow, and that stupid artistic idea that 'shit doesn't have to make sense'...  fucking pop-art.

As far as complexaty goes, my most musically competant friend (18, brought out an electronica album) thinks the fucking world of them, and he's not one to fall for style over substance (he spits on every punk/metal band I show him apart from System and Mr. Bungle)...  So I trust there is actually something worthwhile in there, but, like most, I do not see it.

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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2005, 09:21:00 PM »

Nirvana was a good band.  I think people who treat them as some kind of hero need to get over it, but they wrote catchy music.  Guitar's weak, but it was played by the lead singer so he's partially excused.  I can't understand people who say Nirvana's crap, on a rock standard it beats most of the crap that gets put out today amist the sea of emo/punk-pop garbage that dominates radio.  Even the metal that gets put out today sucks.  Normally there's something to use as a golden standard for music, something that sets one song apart from another, like interesting riffs or something.  Most metal music today is just some jerk strumming random chords as loud as he can and reading some crapy poetry of his while clearing his throat or something (what *are* they doing?), they might as *well* bring back the hair bands.

But Kurt Cobain certainly didn't invent grunge, he just put it on MTV.  There were a lot  more interesting  bands that came before him.
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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2005, 09:41:57 PM »

Motherlovebone created grunge in seattle (in my opinion anyways) years before nirvana was even in the bare bone stages of a band.  I actually got into an argument with someone because they said "nirvana created grunge".  when i showed them  some Motherlovebone and Mudhoney, his reply was "see, thats not grunge."  i thought i would hear him out first, so i asked him:

"well then, what does grunge supposed to sound like?"

and his answer pissed me off even more, it was: "like nirvana, the band who created it."  this is why you never talk to someone wearing a blink-182 shirt and FuBu jeans.
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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2005, 10:07:05 PM »

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Most metal music today is just some jerk strumming random chords as loud as he can and reading some crapy poetry of his while clearing his throat or something (what *are* they doing?), they might as *well* bring back the hair bands.

I strongly disagree. Yes, there is an AMAZING amount of simply terrible metal bands around today, and sadly they're about all you hear about if you don't go looking for the good ones. Same with MANY other genres. There are lots of great metal bands around today, and not all of them the "ZOMG BR00TAL EXTREME" style. (though there are some so-called 'extreme metal' bands I quite like) For example, some 'modern' bands of various styles-- Persuader, Korpiklaani, Manowar (YES they're still around like it or not :wink: ), Annihilator (still going as well)... And of course then there's the whole Judas Priest reunion thing... Let's see, there's Biomechanical who started pretty recently, that is some real talented metal... Dragonforce are fairly recent... Anyway, I just can't stand stereotyping or generalizations. Yes, lots of the 'metal' that gets attention nowadays is hardly metal at all. Like I said, same with plenty of other genres. There's plenty of great metal nowadays if you're looking for it.
Anyway... rant over...
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2005, 10:27:05 PM »

The Beatles. They were the best... period. They're like 4 generations before me, but I love their music so much.
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2005, 10:44:12 PM »

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I'm not a Something Awful forum member, but I read the site regularly.  Great place.


The forum is better Smiley.
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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2005, 10:55:52 PM »

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I'm not a Something Awful forum member, but I read the site regularly.  Great place.


The forum is better Smiley.

Seeing as I've never even seen the forum, I can only guess, but I'm assuming you mean better in the sense that it has such an amazing host of assholes and idiots that it becomes hilarious.  Tongue (I'm not trying to flame here. That's just been one of the reasons what I've seen of SA has actually been amusing :wink: the whole cynical shock value thing... ala maddox...)
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« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2005, 10:58:27 PM »

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please get grown up and listen to aic :p


My favorite band. Tongue

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never heard a nirvana song  Cheesy


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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2005, 12:02:09 AM »

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Seeing as I've never even seen the forum, I can only guess, but I'm assuming you mean better in the sense that it has such an amazing host of assholes and idiots that it becomes hilarious.  Tongue (I'm not trying to flame here. That's just been one of the reasons what I've seen of SA has actually been amusing :wink: the whole cynical shock value thing... ala maddox...)


It's a lot different than Maddox, unless you were saying you got the impression from maddox (who joined the forums where everyone told him they didn't like his page, so he left).  It's basically a megaforum, it has a ton of subforums with all different topics with people who know a lot about each subject.  There are people from all aspects of life and different jobs and such.  Basically a community like any other forum.  I was saying the forum was better than the site because practically everything shown on the site was created by people in the forum.

I guess you have to be a member to see, it's basically everything you'll need from a forum, in one forum.

As for saying the people are assholes, well it can be the same as the rest of the world.  People in general can be assholes, it's how the world works.  Although they aren't too tolerant of stupid questions and newbies going "First post, lol!" it's not a hard place to figure out.  The idea is to ween out the morons so you have a good posting community.  Hence the reason you pay and the reason idiots get banned.  The forum hopes to only have the best.

And now I've typed more than I do for most of my papers at uni.
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2005, 05:54:14 AM »

Nirvana's fun to listen on the radio every now and then, but I don't like them enough to go and buy their music.
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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2005, 07:33:02 AM »

nirvana was good, and yes, simple. the first songs i ever learned on guitar were nirvana songs, and to be quite honest, theres something almost magical in music that the average person can sit and play for people and they recognize it. its really rewarding and nice.

cobains voice did kinda suck, but sometimes it was just perfect for the music that went along with it. and like someone said, he was singing all that crap and playing too. thas actually really freakin hard :p

i guess nirvana wasnt the best band ever but the music brings back a lot of good memories for me, good times, good music, really. as much as you can say they just 'happened' to be on some kind of 'fulcrum' i do honestly believe that they ushered in a new age of music. and yes a like a lot of nu-metal stuff.

how about old-skool KoRn? bizkit ( i mean like 3 dollar bill ) incubus (old stuff, again) i dont think this kinda stuff would be around without nirvana becoming so mainstream. i think they kind of enabled it

and people that say jazz and metal is two totally different things; slipknot's drummer is heavily influenced by jazz... you can really hear it if you listen ;)
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« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2005, 09:01:18 AM »

oh come on singing and playing the guitar is not that hard. especially taking into account that that guy played the guitar for more then 10 years when bleach came out. so this argument is lame. he was just not a good singer, but yes sometimes the voice was perfect in some situations. just don't ever listen to a live recording.

on korn, lb and incubus. dunno korn is the only band that WAS good, lb simply sucks and incubus... dunno don't like them alot. maybe you should mention silverchair as they were really more of the nirvana kind of band though the singer was a lot better ( the songs sucked though ).

i know how it feels to play some songs in front of some ppl and they sing along. as you said nirvana fits perfectly in such situations as every donkey knows their songs. to bad nobody can sing along to tool or apc songs :p
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« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2005, 11:44:31 AM »

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to bad nobody can sing along to tool or apc songs :p


my cousin was listening to the grudge the other day, i almost burst out laughing when i heard his impression of manyard.  I guess i'm the only one in my family who is even close to his voice =P
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« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2005, 12:12:05 PM »

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to bad nobody can sing along to tool or apc songs :p



cause i threww u the obvious to seeee what occurs behind the eyeesss... ;DDDDDDD

apc & tool Rulez
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« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2005, 04:57:25 PM »

the new metallica is easy to sing along to...

PURRRRIFYYY!!!!!!!!!

can't you help me

PUUURRRRIIIFFYYYYIIIYYIIYYY!!!!!!!
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