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Author Topic: metal warriors come out and play  (Read 3746 times)
Diroga
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« on: March 29, 2005, 02:07:04 AM »

does any one have tips form me to learn how to play heavy/death/thrash metal?
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2005, 02:53:42 AM »

Well, I can't give you any tips personally, but I COULD reccomend some good bands of those genres whose playing style you might wanna study. :wink:
Oh, and, I'm assuming you mean on guitar? (eg. not bass or drums etc?)
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2005, 04:02:59 AM »

alright, first bite the head of a squirrel. now, attach jumpers from a car battery to your nuts. now, jump into an ice fishing hole. and dont forget the MOST important step towards becoming good at thrash is kicking a puppy.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2005, 04:19:11 AM »

The first thing is designing a killer logo and a scary icon. That's the very first thing that metal bands do.
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2005, 05:03:58 AM »

:rotfl:

You guys are crazy!

...but

You'll need some steel guitar picks, a big o' bottle o' brown whiskey, a pack of cigarettes and hot chick. :lol:

Seriously, if you want to do the old skool stuff like Megadeth, then you have your work cut out for you. If you want to play that braindead zombie rust metal... well, you should be able to master that in a couple o' weeks as long as you avoid bathing & stuff.

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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2005, 06:03:38 AM »

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You'll need some steel guitar picks, a big o' bottle o' brown whiskey, a pack of cigarettes and hot chick.

Dude... Steel guitar picks? Whiskey? No. That's country. :lol:
But seriously, I mean you CAN learn guitar with a certain style in mind, but you might just want to try taking up guitar as a kinda hobby and then once you're decent at it go into the style of music you want to play.
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2005, 06:38:32 AM »

Yup. Now ,jokes apart: just begin playing. Play all night, all day. Play 24/7. Your style will develop on its own, heavily influenced on what you listen to. Then you can learn techniques used in Metal music, but I'd rather not focus myself on a style 'cause that's limiting. Just play the way you like.

I utterly suck at playing guitar but many people say that I have my own, personal style. That's what should be aimed, methinks. Don't try to play like James Hetfield, we already have one James Hetfield.

My two cents.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2005, 07:25:02 AM »

yep. agree 100%. you wanna get good? bring yourself to that level. practice. its like a video game man, exp youll get levels haha

but seriously, set a reasonable goal. find a song that some hot chick you know likes and then learn it and play it for her. that way you get doubly rewarded
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2005, 08:24:55 AM »

Quote from: "Cha0s"
yep. agree 100%. you wanna get good? bring yourself to that level. practice. its like a video game man, exp youll get levels haha

but seriously, set a reasonable goal. find a song that some hot chick you know likes and then learn it and play it for her. that way you get doubly rewarded


Haha... Something only you'd give as totally serious advice. :wink:
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2005, 02:18:59 PM »

Smiley You know studies have been done regarding water molocules and diff effects diff things cause in them, and heavy rock metal causes water to become greatly desturbed and grimy looking under a microscoop.... and fun fact, are bodies are made of 70% water.... I really speak against Metal rock any way, this just backs it up a lil... :wink:

BTW, metal picks and wisky have nothing to do with country, my grandpa sings country for a hobbie, I never seen him use a metal pick, may be wrong tho.. :roll:
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2005, 10:22:53 PM »

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Smiley You know studies have been done regarding water molocules and diff effects diff things cause in them, and heavy rock metal causes water to become greatly desturbed and grimy looking under a microscoop.... and fun fact, are bodies are made of 70% water.... I really speak against Metal rock any way, this just backs it up a lil... :wink:

BTW, metal picks and wisky have nothing to do with country, my grandpa sings country for a hobbie, I never seen him use a metal pick, may be wrong tho.. :roll:


Ugh... First of all...

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I really speak against Metal rock any way, this just backs it up a lil...

Why do you 'speak against metal'? I can understand perfectly if you don't like it, I'd never have a problem with that, but... I don't particularly care for, say, opera, but I don't speak out against it seriously or dismiss the whole thing as a bunch of fat stereotype italians.
As such, seems to me what you're doing is taking the stereotype metal band for the real thing. You think anyone who plays metal is a grimy, obnoxious, pig with a mullet and a guitar? Yeah, I know you didn't specifically say that, but speaking against metal simply because it's metal is just... stupid.
Oh, and the notion that metal music makes water 'disturbed and grimy'? Do you know just how MANY types of metal there are? That's a bit like saying all music ever made makes people sad.
Sorry, but I just can't STAND it when someone is this ignorant...
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metal picks and wisky have nothing to do with country, my grandpa sings country for a hobbie, I never seen him use a metal pick, may be wrong tho..

...Wow. I was being sarcastic. Friendly jabs at the stereotype I know isn't true.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2005, 10:44:55 PM »

Eh? I really need to think when I type, this might help me, heh, I ment I don't like it, just passing a little warning, and yeah, I heard some hard rock with alsome beats, I ment no stereo typing...

I really ment that post to poke fun if you want to know.. My mom was just looking up quantum physic stuff, and this just reminded me of that water study... :lol: ... do, unmind my above post.. :rotfl:
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2005, 01:21:54 AM »

The easiest way is to be the "three chord wonder" player Wink which is to play only the three base power chords (only requires two fingers on the fretboard! hahahaha!). But heavy metal, death metal, and thrash metal are all three very distinct subgenres of metal, each one is approached in a different fashion. "Heavy metal" is like the "father" of all metal styles but is generally between 60 and 100bpm, with the occasional ballad piece varying between 40 and 80bpm. "Heavy metal" usually features a somewhat coherant and understandable vocalist, two guitars (rhythm and lead), a bass, and a drummer. The best example of a classic heavy metal band would be Black Sabbath, without question. Smiley Iron Maiden also falls under this category. Death metal is generally faster and doesn't always feature a lead guitarist. The vocalist is supposed to be very gruff and non-understandable to the "casual listener". The image of this kind of metal is always carried with dark intent, so their names usually fit the mood they're trying to convey. Good examples of death metal bands would be Cannibal Corpse, Killing Addiction, and Nile...a little research will turn up hundreds of others, as this style of metal was extremely popular throughout the 90s. Thrash metal is altogether different. The purpose of thrash metal is to get the music stuck in your head. Thrash metal is generally catchy in some kind of way, be it by complex progressions or just plain interesting riffs. Good examples of thrash metal bands are Megadeth, Metallica (pre-1996, their style changed), and Slayer. Throughout the 80s, this style of metal was the most popular. A major factor in seperating these three subgenres is in the vocalist...a heavy metal vocalist is often understandable, a death metal vocalist almost never is, and a thrash metal vocalist either is or isn't...it's relatively immaterial since the basis of the music is just that...the music itself.

There are dozens of other subgenres of metal music, like black metal (which is further divided into sub-subgenres like Viking style [Mithotyn], classic Norwegian style [Dark Throne], Swedish hybrid [or 'Black Death', a mixture of Scandinavian black metal and death metal, a good example is Dissection], etc), hair metal (Poison anyone? hehehe), nu-metal (Disturbed, Saliva, Drowning Pool, etc), the list goes on and on. Then you got bands who defy classification (Cradle of Filth anyone? hehe) which opens up a whole new can of worms. Cheesy

The point? There's a lot of variation to be had. Cheesy But in order to tackle any of it, you need to start with the basics and then work from there. If you intend on playing rhythm, learn your power chords and majors, then expand from there. If you intend on learning lead, learn the diatonic scale (AVOID THE PENTATONIC SCALE OR I WILL STAB YOU WITH A PITCHFORK UNTIL YOUR EYES BLEED PURPLE). Then just practice and practice. Smiley Also, you might want to listen to some classical music as well. Classical music influences metal music a great deal (a shining example of this is Metallica's "To Live Is To Die" from their 1988 album "...And Justice For All", Iron Maiden's "Rime Of The Ancient Mariner" from their 1984 album "Powerslave", or just about anything by Candlemass).
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2005, 02:01:35 AM »

Don't forget power metal; the only genre where the singers will be singing heartily about either:
A). dragons and ancient tales,
B). sinners and anceint gods,
 or
C). ...aguing about which of the above is more 'tr00' a topic to sing about.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2005, 04:48:35 AM »

Thank you adosorken, that was very insightful. i was looking for that quality of responis.

all i have is a yamaha acutic guitar and no knowledge of music. i can play simple tabs (i.e. misc xmas songs.) i know some ppl at school who know guitar farily well.

why do you favor the diatonic scale over the pentatonic? i thouht most modern music was baised of off pentatonic.

so where do i go from here?
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