IsoRPG

[Pyrodap]

Well, a few of you may remember a little unfinished game i made called ISO. Well, I lost interest when QB started acting like a...

well, anyway, now that I don't have the same limits with FB, i'm going to restart the project!!

IsoRPG!!

I'm not planning on making an entire RPG with this thing, just a walkaround engine. It's going to be kinda cool though, as everything will be life sized. Aren't you tired of the characters in an rpg being bigger then a house, or even a city? well NO MORE!!!

the environment BEAUTIFUL - this screenie isn't that great - it doesnt show ANY of the city... it's just from the development thing... i dont have any textured blocks in this screenie, but you CAN see a dude wearing red armor. (the guy is totally animated btw.)

Anyway, it'll be p*p scrolling, animated blocks, animated chars, etc., etc.


(btw, its going to be 640*480*256)


FYI there wont be any playable demos for a while, and also, as i've said, i'm NOT planning on making this into a full game.


[As posted on QBTK and FBTK]

Also...

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[Z!re]

Any progress?

[R@dioman]

There's something wrong with your isometric engine. Look at the steps. They don't make any sense.

[steven_basic]

Other than the pyramid section seems to be floating, the steps all line up just fine.  Not like its one of those optical illsion paintings...

[na_th_an]

It is completely fine, I don't see any odd stuff.

Btw, neat work If you plan to release this as a engine, be sure to make it "coder friendly"

[R@dioman]

I still think it doesn't makse sense. Look at the yellow lines:



The lines shoe that he's only making 90 degree turns 1 square away and then goes back up. Shouldn't he be ending at the same spot? Even if the pyramid was floating, the stairs still don't make sense. The stairs are shifting.

[Z!re]

Thats because it's a 2D scroller, with isometrically drawn tiles.

Pyro, if thats how you've done it, look into using "real" isometric engine with "3D" tiles. Or you'll end up having to draw... somewhere around... LOTS... of tiles/sprites/stuff...

[steven_basic]

It doesn't appear to be out of whack (for a forced perspective game).  The grid seems to line up:


...maybe it does fall into the optical illusion category...

[na_th_an]

Exactly. I think I understood the picture 'cause I've played so many isometric games that used this technique, invented in 1985 by the software house Ultimate Play The Game (formed by the Stamper brothers that are now the "big bosses" of Rare, well known in the console scene -Donkey Kong Country comes to mind, as well as many "modern" games-)for their game "Knight Lore" (a true masterpiece), so I think I'm "made" to it . FYI, this technique is called "Filmation". Why? No idea.

[Ryan]

Those pics reminds me of Solstice.  I can't remember who made it, but it's a great game for the NES that I still have (and play.. and get frustrated by).  It's just a huge iso dungeon that you have to collect staff pieces in and dodge baddies.  Worth a look.  :wink:

And the pyramid looks logical (minus the floating part)..

[Jocke The Beast]

Don't make me start guys (when talking about old cool games)  :wink:

Anyways, here's a pic of one of my favourite "old-games", Fairlight. And Nathan, if you enjoyed "Knight Lore" you would love "Fairlight" since  it also had the same fantastic 3d graphics but was a little more advanced then "Knight Lore" in some ways (each room in "Fairlight" poses a problem that you've got to overcome).

[na_th_an]

Oh, yeah, Fairlight! That one was truely awesome. And I mean "awesome".

I get astonished with those games. Young people may be laughing at us when they see the screenshots, but take this in mind: those games ran on a 8 bits machine with a 3.5 Mhz processor and 48 Kb or RAM. Imagine having to sort the stuff in the room so they are drawn in the correct order, once per frame, in such a slow machine with such a limited amount of memory. Take in account, also, that the games were loaded from tape, then the whole game had to fit in memory: graphics, code, map data, music data... that left out very little room.

Ultimate (the makers of Knight Lore) developed their technique a little bit futher with "Alien 8" and they even added scrolling to the thing in "Gun Fright". I really don't know how they achieved that in such a humble machine.



Btw, my personal favourite ISO game has to be Head Over Heels, by Ocean Software (1988). There's a cool remake of this game on the works, also. Batman, from the same author, came before, and was almost as good.

original:



remake:

[aetherfox]

OMG!!!!

*drool*

downloading...

[Jocke The Beast]

Ok, I'm not feeling well anymore...I've spent the entire day downloading remakes over at http://www.remakes.org/. Found alot of old goodies....like IK plus, Barbarian, Rick Dangerous, Castlevania, Bomberman, Solomon´s key and even a good remake of  Wings Of Fury (which was as funny as I remember it back in the late 80's). When playing these old games one gets happy. Many of the games back then were really well-made and had alot of style and was very unique. Ahh....memories...

[Dr_Davenstein]

This was my favorite iso game of all time.
It's called Equinox on SNES...




This game makes you feel weird when you play it... like you really are in a strange land or something.


P.S. Sorry, Pyro! I think your thread finally got jacked!  :oops:

The game does look cool though... can't wait to try it!