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« Reply #120 on: February 20, 2004, 04:58:49 PM »

As I was explaining on MSN...when Linux gets something as easy to use as VB6, I'll gladly jump ship. Until then (and no, glade dont cut it either Tongue ), I'm with Windows. Cheesy
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« Reply #121 on: February 20, 2004, 05:14:59 PM »

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And I have two words for ya about MS stealing: prove it.


ok.


Read the news:

Internet Explorer vs. Netscape Navigator:
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/BUSINESS/01/22/netscape/index.html
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,80925,00.asp

Burst's technology and Sun Java stolen
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/09/30/microsoft.burst.ap/

Patent violations:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/industry/03/27/ms.patent.suit.idg/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9812/16/mousesuit.idg/index.html
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,9598,00.asp
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,114669,00.asp
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,114506,00.asp
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,56083,00.asp
http://news.com.com/2100-1023_3-5141318.html?tag=st_rn


Antitrust violations and illegal muscling:
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/BUSINESS/02/19/beos/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/BUSINESS/02/19/beos/index.html
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,77163,00.asp
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,5433,00.asp

More theft:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,108178,00.asp
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,9043,00.asp

Must be nice to be a lawyer for MS, they're never out of work.
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« Reply #122 on: February 20, 2004, 06:08:57 PM »

Shocked  Don't have time to read all of those now, but I will when I get the time.
You do your research well, Rhia! I stand corrected re the part about illegal activity. But I still don't support MS-bashing.
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« Reply #123 on: February 20, 2004, 06:27:33 PM »

it's not bashing when it's the truth Wink
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« Reply #124 on: February 20, 2004, 06:41:34 PM »

Linux does have a language easier than vb6 and allmost just as powerful called TCL/TK www.scriptics.com and www.activestate.com you can also get a lot of third party applications for it like visual tcl to help you create visual applications.

Amiga was cool.

WineX are made to play the most complex of games counter strike is now playable so is warcraft 3 and all of those games I would say a lot of shooters like unreal and quake work but they allready have versions for linux so it doesn't really matter.

Lycoris desktop/lx comes with all of these features and the newest version of Wine has the source code to Codeweavers office which allows users to run Microsoft office on linux.
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« Reply #125 on: February 20, 2004, 07:20:03 PM »

This really makes me wonder...

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M$ windows sucks!!!1!!1!!


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...but you can run wine so you can run windows stuff!11! how cool!!1!!11!


So you hate windows, but when you have linux you try your hardest to run windows on it? That's just stupid. Why not just partition? I'm sure there's an ubercool kicka$$ lindows partitioning system out there ripped from debian or slackware...
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« Reply #126 on: February 20, 2004, 07:26:51 PM »

dual booting sucks why not do it all from one os   still some windows software is needed for advanced hardware many software companies do not support linux like jasc or ulead so wine and winex are still needed or win4lin to give the same luxeries as windows users.
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« Reply #127 on: February 20, 2004, 07:48:26 PM »

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dual booting sucks why not do it all from one os   still some windows software is needed for advanced hardware many software companies do not support linux like jasc or ulead so wine and winex are still needed or win4lin to give the same luxeries as windows users.


Why does dual booting suck? Dual booting gives me 100% compatibility with windows and linux. If I want linux, I boot linux. If I want windows, it's not hard to reboot. Running windows (which from your point of view so obviously sucks it shouldn't exist) through linux is gonna make it seem even more unstable, and thus more criticism will be heaped on it for bugs that are not its fault, but WINEs.
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« Reply #128 on: February 20, 2004, 07:58:19 PM »

suppose you have software that can do somethings but not all on tyour linux parititon and then you have the sotware that can do the rest of what you need on your windows partition. now suppose you don't have any money to buy something to inter-connect or you do not have the means of downloading something to inter-connect the two partitions together to get your information from. sure you can get to ntfs via linux but you can't write to it very well and windows can't even read reiserfs or ext3 or xfs so how do you avoid all of themes problems? start making solutions where you don't have to rely on rutning your power off or rebooting and changeing to a whole new os when once you are done you just go to turn off or reboot and change back. the process gets old if you are wanting the best of both worlds so to speak. For instance, I am a windows developer and a linux developer. I would rather be able to write my code in one os and still be in the same os but test it in a windows enverionment instead of having to make arrangements for the code to be on my windows partition then reboot to a windows-native environment just to test my code and go back. Also, if I have software that is good in Linux and some that is also good in Windows that involves the same project I would rather be able to run them all from the same OS instead of changeing over to something else and having to keep going back and forth.
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« Reply #129 on: February 20, 2004, 08:02:47 PM »

Well, that may be OK, but then you're developing for WINE+WINDOWS, not Windows. Thus your code will always be worse than someone who codes in windows for windows. Besides, why are you writing code for Windows in Linux?Huh?
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« Reply #130 on: February 20, 2004, 08:25:44 PM »

so come to a happy medium and use fat32
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« Reply #131 on: February 20, 2004, 10:20:09 PM »

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Yes, yet again, more spamming about Lindows.
And I have two words for ya about MS stealing: prove it.


Why? The statute of limitations expired, and they freely admit that they coded MS Basic for the altair using code printoffs they stold from DEC back when they were in college.

Also, they lost the case against Stacker so many years ago, which accused that they tried to steal stacker and put it in dos 6.2. There's a reason why drivespace came out in 6.22, the only change made in that version.
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« Reply #132 on: February 21, 2004, 03:43:43 PM »

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So you hate windows, but when you have linux you try your hardest to run windows on it?


Oracle, wine and winex exist for one reason only which is that it makes the transition from Windows to Linux easier. I too am currently using Linux as my desktop OS. But I am not using Wine or WineX since I like the Linux ports/equivalent programs of the M$ for Linux =).
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« Reply #133 on: February 21, 2004, 06:19:50 PM »

nEdit, after about 30 minutes of configuraing, makes a pretty decent Notepad clone.

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« Reply #134 on: February 22, 2004, 12:19:45 AM »

/me now figures out that he's out of date...
Find me one business that never stole or did any illegal activity to gain popularily/sell more products.
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