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Author Topic: Possible Windows source code leak  (Read 28982 times)
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« on: February 12, 2004, 10:46:01 PM »

If this is true it could be potentially devasting to Microsoft, story here: http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=17509&category=main and here: http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3312451

For the interested, here is a list of the files that are supossedly contained in the leaked archives: http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~mortehu/files.txt. Its difficult to determine whether or not its the operating system code just by looking at the file names. Heres some of the more interesting filenames though:
Code:

win2k/private/inet/urlmon/iapp/gnumakefile
win2k/private/inet/xml/xml/tokenizer/dll/words of wisdom from dennis.eml
win2k/private/inet/xml/xml/dso/letter to children - 2.eml
win2k/private/ntos/w32/ntuser/kernel/
win2k/private/shell/wontfix.txt
win2k/private/shell/docs/leak.txt
win2k/private/shell/shdocvw/ofbugs.txt
win2k/private/shell/cpls/appwiz/todo
win2k/private/windows/shell/games/sol/sol.c


It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2004, 10:48:48 PM »

I hope this is true. If it is, we'll have sometime soon an Open Source Windows Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2004, 10:52:08 PM »

I sure hope this is a hoax. If not, then, like they said, this would be absolutely devastating. In fact, it would perhaps be the end of Microsoft's reputation as the leading OS-maker.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2004, 11:21:42 PM »

The disadvantages may outweight the advantages:

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2004, 11:22:21 PM »

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I hope this is true. If it is, we'll have sometime soon an Open Source Windows


Theres a huge downside to this. If the source has been leaked and Microsoft openly admit it and then they claim that developers on open source projects such as Linux and Wine are "stealing" the leaked code to improve their projects it could crush open source developement. Linux is under scrutiny from SCO, who claim that the Linux kernel contains code that was leaked from SCO's Unix.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2004, 11:28:41 PM »

SCO doesn't have a leg to stand on, that's why they had to revise their original claim to be less full of shyte. Their only minor advantage is in the fact that Microsoft is supporting them, so they won't run out of funds for lawyer's fees. Unfortunately for SCO, they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell, even with Microsoft's backing. Everyone knows that Microsoft's only in on it to take yet another stab at the open source community...only this time, they're really gonna kitten up their PR if they keep supporting these idiots.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2004, 11:36:22 PM »

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SCO doesn't have a leg to stand on,


Yeah, the case has been quite funny to watch. One of the segments of code that SCO claimed that Linux had stolen was a piece of public domain code for a malloc routine that first appeared in one Knuth's book somewhere in the early 60's.

The problem with the SCO case (and potentially if Microsoft claimed that OSS stole from leaked Windows code) is not whether its true or not, its the damage that is done from the allegations. Comapanies that were looking to switch to Linux when SCO first started making claims, shyed away because the outcome was unclear then. SCO are still putting out enough propaganda to scare away some potential Linux customers.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2004, 11:41:52 PM »

As morally wrong as the whole thing is, one thing people tend to forget is that business is business. It would be difficult to bring libel charges against Microsoft and SCO in tihs case, simply because one of the key factors of open source isn't profit, so under libel laws, no one's being hurt. If Linux was represented by a profitable company, Microsoft and SCO would be hit with libel charges so fast their heads would spin. Really sucks that nothing can be done about it, but that's one of the risks of being not-for-profit.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2004, 11:51:25 PM »

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If Linux was represented by a profitable company, Microsoft and SCO would be hit with libel charges so fast their heads would spin. Really sucks that nothing can be done about it, but that's one of the risks of being not-for-profit.


There are two parts to SCOs case, one is that Linux contains code that has been lifted from SCO Unix. The second is that IBM has put code into the Linux kernel that is derived from SCO Unix. IBM licences SCOs Unix technology to develop AIX. The license disallows derived works to be released to the public. SCO are claiming that code that IBM has made available for Linux, such as JFS and NUMA are derived works of AIX and in turn, SCO Unix. IBM are of course counter-sueing SCO for being complete dum-dums. IIRC RedHat also counter-sued SCO for damaging its legimate business practice through propaganda without proof.
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2004, 12:01:02 AM »

In the IBM case, SCO really doesn't have a prayer. I am still laughing at SCO for this whole thing. And as far as I can remember...wasn't the Red Hat case settled? I didn't see much about it when I was reading the OSI's paper...
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2004, 12:56:25 AM »

There's a long history of law suits against Microsoft...but the lawsuits really can't exceed a few billion. So, every time someone tries, MS would just shrug and hand over the money.
But I don't support all this MS-bashing. I just think they make a really great OS, and really great software. So sue me. (pun intended. Tongue )
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2004, 01:09:13 AM »

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But I don't support all this MS-bashing. I just think they make a really great OS


Im not bashing MS, Im posting this story out of interest and I believe that if this isn't a hoax it may have some effect on the operating system market over the next few years. Whether it is too Microsofts benefit or not is yet to be seen.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2004, 01:12:28 AM »

IMHO you're making an understatement. This would shake the foundations of Microsoft. Their Windows 2000 and Windows NT OSes would be pretty much rendered  useless in the eyes of administrators.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2004, 01:32:58 AM »

Quote from: "Didio in an interview on http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3312451"
With the open source community, there are a large percentage of tinkers and 'ankle biters' who are trying their hand at hacking. Some are even communicating with each other. So it only takes one or two of these groups sharing information to be able to pull something off. When you have this type of passion, it's hard to fight because these people are like virtual suicide car bombers.

Yeah, thats right, Open Source people are just like suicide bombers.

Hey everyone, we have just been labeled as suicide bombers, because we share our code.
*picks up bomb and goes out to car to drive to nearest MS office*

And guess what, some of the open source people are actually communicating with each other... ARGH!!.... ARREST THEM!

Seriously, it would't surprise me if it was all some PR stunt by MS themselves, it comes at a little to handy time for them, with the SCO lawsuit, their new OS comming up, and the TCPA things http://www.AgainstTCPA.com

Hey, Zack, MS just called you a terrorist, and according to US law that makes them able to put you in jail.. for virtually (hehe, virtual, lol) nothing.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2004, 01:48:04 AM »

It's not a PR stunt...a core dump was found with the leak that indicates it was leaked by somebody from Mainsoft.
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