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« Reply #165 on: November 23, 2003, 03:13:00 PM »

I'd be all for that, TBBQ, but the news goes on, and the people supplying the weapons know just as much as we do.

The fighting has been going on so long though, that I don't really understand why anyone cares anymore. It's been decades and decades since this all started, and everyone thinks they can end it with some magical formula. The truth is, I don't think it will *EVER* end until both sides have slaughtered each other.
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« Reply #166 on: November 23, 2003, 03:30:29 PM »

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...some magical formula. The truth is, I don't think it will *EVER* end until both sides have slaughtered each other.


I was just about to say that =)
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« Reply #167 on: November 23, 2003, 03:37:23 PM »

It's a well-established fact that anyone who's experienced such a thing is going to back whatever element opposes the problem. Hence, TBBQ backs Israel. Smiley

I don't back anyone, I think all countries in this world are a buncha schmucks. It really wouldn't matter to me if Israel and Palestine blew each other away. Or, if the USA and Iraq blew each other away. It really makes no difference to me. All it is is a buncha religious idiots blowing each other up coz they don't like the other's god (Afghanistan), or they think their god is right (USA), or they can't ever agree on who's land is more holy (Israel/Palestine). It's all BS to me. Let them all die.

And that is just that. Period!
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« Reply #168 on: November 23, 2003, 03:40:19 PM »

You're so cheery and happy. Wink
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« Reply #169 on: November 23, 2003, 03:50:20 PM »

Aint it great? Wink
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« Reply #170 on: November 23, 2003, 04:02:06 PM »

Yeah, of course. he he

But I would never back Israel. To me both parties are to blame of such flow of killing. I've listed my arguments, they are not interpretations but facts. I haven't listed Israeli casualties 'cause we all know them, there was no need to list them.

My final quote: In the Israeli-Palestinian conflict there is not a "good party" and a "bad party". They are both bad. End of discussion. Call them terrorists or soldiers, call it war or guerrilla, call it terror attacks or military actions. Just the same rubbish: Innocent people die 'cause a few people want more money.

I am not for Palestinians nor for Israelis. I just want to make you see how Israelis are fighting flies with cannons thanks the US, and how a bunch of Palestinian insane people (Hammas) just hit blindly. Just two sides of the same nonsense.

I was called "nazi" by Flexibal in the past for my ideas. Funny thing, uh? I don't blame him 'cause he is directly concerned, but people should learn to look things in perspective. That makes people intelligent and coherent.

Those conflicts aren't BLACK vs WHITE, GIJOE vs COBRA, CAPTAIN AMERICA vs RED SKULL, ITCHY vs SCRATCHY. That only happens in comics. In the real life, there isn't good and evil, but different interests.

There is a nice quote that I like... "What would happen if there is a war... and nobody went to fight?". We should work for that to happen. It is relatively easy:

Be intelligent, don't fear who's different and COEXIST.

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« Reply #171 on: November 23, 2003, 04:06:28 PM »

Well said, na_th_an. Smiley And with that, this is my final post on this subject as well. There's just nothing left to say...
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« Reply #172 on: November 23, 2003, 05:10:14 PM »

I don't know if this should be locked or not.... I wasn't here yesterday (never am on a sunday), and I would have locked it then, but it's all calmed down now.

Continue debating/arguing/whatever Smiley
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« Reply #173 on: November 23, 2003, 05:23:05 PM »

is this the largest post/forum/whatever you call it
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« Reply #174 on: November 23, 2003, 05:25:51 PM »

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I don't know if this should be locked or not.... I wasn't here yesterday (never am on a sunday), and I would have locked it then, but it's all calmed down now.

Continue debating/arguing/whatever Smiley


That seems like a strange policy to me -- lock threads when people inside them disagree? I think there's a fine line you have to contemplate before you do something like that, if just so flame wars don't spread like a disease to the rest of the forum.
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« Reply #175 on: November 23, 2003, 10:07:38 PM »

Yesterday everybody wanted it locked.

I'm quite happy to let this thread go on, there's only been some small name-calling and that calmed down by itself.

I never said I'd lock a thread when people disagreed about something in it...
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« Reply #176 on: November 24, 2003, 11:16:50 AM »

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Yeah, of course. he he

But I would never back Israel. To me both parties are to blame of such flow of killing. I've listed my arguments, they are not interpretations but facts. I haven't listed Israeli casualties 'cause we all know them, there was no need to list them.

My final quote: In the Israeli-Palestinian conflict there is not a "good party" and a "bad party". They are both bad. End of discussion. Call them terrorists or soldiers, call it war or guerrilla, call it terror attacks or military actions. Just the same rubbish: Innocent people die 'cause a few people want more money.

I am not for Palestinians nor for Israelis. I just want to make you see how Israelis are fighting flies with cannons thanks the US, and how a bunch of Palestinian insane people (Hammas) just hit blindly. Just two sides of the same nonsense.

I was called "nazi" by Flexibal in the past for my ideas. Funny thing, uh? I don't blame him 'cause he is directly concerned, but people should learn to look things in perspective. That makes people intelligent and coherent.

Those conflicts aren't BLACK vs WHITE, GIJOE vs COBRA, CAPTAIN AMERICA vs RED SKULL, ITCHY vs SCRATCHY. That only happens in comics. In the real life, there isn't good and evil, but different interests.

There is a nice quote that I like... "What would happen if there is a war... and nobody went to fight?". We should work for that to happen. It is relatively easy:

Be intelligent, don't fear who's different and COEXIST.



Who gave you the facts? Let me guess....erm.....the media?  :lol:
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« Reply #177 on: November 24, 2003, 11:28:40 AM »

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That person has already killed himself in a terrorist act. The wife and children aren't going to be in that house anymore, because they know it will be bombed. This "husband" knew what he was getting his family into. Instead of persuading him to stay not to leave his family homeless, he goes out, kills innocent people, and leaves his family homeless. If that family was stupid enough to stay in the house, then he leaves them dead.

That is the most ignorant thing I've ever read in my life, outside of some fundamentalist Christian babbling of course. Wow. Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse.

Oh yeah, I'm sure some guy wakes up one morning and says "OK, I'm going to betray my family, rush out to slaughter innocent people, and wait for my house to get nuked while my family flees to safety". Sorry, it just doesn't work that way. In fact, most of these so-called "terrorists" do these "terroristic acts" to protect their own families from what they consider "the enemy".

And yes...a bomb landing on one house will easily obliterate all houses in the vicinity...how many houses it wipes out with it depends on its poundage and the immediate density of housing units.

I wanted to let this issue rest but sometimes ignorance just prompts me to speak more...
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« Reply #178 on: November 24, 2003, 11:29:07 AM »

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The US is a representative democracy, like all democracies in the world, and it instills representative democracies.


http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html#Govt

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Government type:  
Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition  


hmmm....CIA must be wrong...I always knew they were dumb :roll:

Besides, i'm sure in school you used to say the pledge of allegience, but if you didnt, let me refresh your memory:
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I pledge allegience to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


You may be seated.
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« Reply #179 on: November 24, 2003, 11:43:36 AM »

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Let me guess....erm.....the media?  :lol:


I think there is nothing to laugh of. I consider it is clear that you are laughing at my statements so you are laughing at me.

Yeah, the media. A nice combination of local TV channels (one of our cameramen was killed by the Americans who claimed that they mistook his camera with a bazooka), CNN, Al Yashira, the Internet, the Palestinian Authority Web Site, a lot of webs from Spanish newspapers, and the fact that I've been to Jerusalem and I've seen it all.
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