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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2005, 08:21:30 PM »

I stumbled upon this thread while searching for something else. What a thrill to get in on the (new) beginning of something.

The qbasic communtiy has far outpaced my keeping up with it, but I still love the old stuff. A previous post mentioned the C=64 which was my first computer. I am all about the nostalgia of it.  I'd love to see what "modern" stuff we can do with it also.

I eagerly await the development of the site.

(the "something else" I was searching for was an interpreter I can install on my webserver to allow qbasic or qbasic-like code to execute on a webpage. I am completly clueless as to if this is possible.)
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2005, 09:20:16 PM »

wait it still be a good idea to have qbasc.com have FB material along with QB stuff.  main reason for this like it or not Qbasic.com was the main gateway for newbies coming into qbasic because of the domain name.


so promoting FB as a win32/Linux/dos32 replacement or at least upgrade would bring a larger user base into the FB community.


as it stands FB as great as it is, is still lost in the ocean of other basic dialects (just google Basic Compilers. FB does show up but it not the top of the list)  having qbaisc.com promoting it would redirect more newbies to us.


also mark you have to remember the FB community isn't a separated community. it is the QB community, you should think of it like a child that has grown up.

so you can't really separated the two there connected at the core.
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2005, 10:16:24 PM »

I don't think that QBasic and FreeBasic should be treated that seperately -after all FreeBasic is born from qbasic and it's qommunity. Is desgined for best compability with QBasic as is possible. And the result is that lots of QB sources work under FB with no modification at all or require minor changes.

Therefore I feel that FreeBasic should be treated as successor to QBasic and not entirely seperated from it. It extends the language and brings QBasic to the 21st century: Native Linux, Windows and dos versions -allow it to use on far greater range of systems, it's 32bit architecture gives a great speedburst and removes memory limitations that QBasic has lounged for all these many years, great range of professional apis and libraries that already exist for FreeBasic makes it even more attractive. And not to mention new features and concepts it has introduced. And yet it has remained just as simple as qbasic. If not even simpler.

Why I'm saying all this is: many people who search for qbasic find this site first -it is listed in top of many search engines and naturally get's lots of traffic. Qbasic is old ( face it people ) in a few years with next windows it won't probably even work anymore under windows. Wich will make it truly extinct. And if there is alternative? Why not?

I'm not clmaiming that QBasic.com should host 100% FreeBasic -my believe is it would be best if this site would serve as a museum site of qbasic and be dedicated for qbasic -but have a recomendatory reference to FreeBasic as prefered successor.

One more reason is a legal point of view. QBasic is not free and posting it for download anywhere is illegal. FreeBasic is free for download and any kind of use. Including for producing commercial software on it.

About your claims to VisualBasic -VisualBasic is too different and enirely different entity on its own. Therefore cannot be taken seriously -from the standpoint of QBasic and being it's successor.
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2005, 12:13:29 AM »

Quote from: "ShadowWolf"
so promoting FB as a win32/Linux/dos32 replacement or at least upgrade would bring a larger user base into the FB community.

A larger FB user base would be great because people who use older operating systems PURELY for QB goodness would have no reason to not upgrade operating systems. After all, FB should be close enough to QB, so why not? This doesn't only promote FB, but it also allows QBers to upgrade to a 32-bit version of QB without changing the familiar syntax.
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2005, 04:37:26 PM »

This arguement over whether to choose qb or fb is about as reasonable as arguing between which compiler to use for qb.  With each sequential compiler came a few new features and changes from the last.  FB is the same way.  It's based on the same code with only a few changes to the original and set in a new compiler.  All fb is, is the same as any upgrade from one of the previous compilers was.  

So for all you qb zealots,  why not stick to only 1.1?
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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2005, 05:59:51 PM »

Devote 1/2 the site to QB, the other FB...
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2005, 03:44:37 AM »

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One more reason is a legal point of view. QBasic is not free and posting it for download anywhere is illegal. FreeBasic is free for download and any kind of use. Including for producing commercial software on it.


i agree with that. fb is like our way to stick it to 'the man' ;P
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2005, 05:10:48 PM »

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So for all you qb zealots,  why not stick to only 1.1?

more like 1.0....  :roll:
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2005, 06:45:59 PM »

a small suggestion:

qbasic.com should have a freebasic section
to further this point, we should have a page on it called "the history of basic" using qbasicnews and the old qbasic.com as a reference to the community.

basically, our past is q/quickbasic, our present is freebasic.

yes, there are still q/quickbasic programmers out there, but to face facts, most OSes don't agree with high-DOS funcionality.  I ahve nothing against programming in qbasic, though.

I think qbasic as our heritage is important, but fb is our present (and possibly future)

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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2005, 08:24:48 PM »

You people take this way to seriously..

Mark, good luck remaking Qbasic.com.. I hope you manage to turn it into a hub of BASIC knowledge..
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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2005, 09:50:49 PM »

Quote from: "Z!re"
You people take this way to seriously..


troll! ;P
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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2005, 09:56:47 PM »

The only way you'll win this argument is to comprimise:
subdirectory for FB...
subdirectory for QB...

Each with its seperate forums...now get to work on that site ASAP!
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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2005, 01:10:30 AM »

It's quite simple, let freebasic.net be the FB home with forums, tutorials and such and qbasic.com be the QB one (besides qbasicnews, qb45 and such, obviously :P), without one pretending the other doesn't exist, like the current "official" qbasic.com forum does - that's the reason i didn't add any links to qbasic.com, other than its living-dead state that lasted for years.

Without QB, FreeBASIC would never exist and without FB, QuickBASIC may would become a museum figure or a toy for emulator aficionados.

Both sites link to each other and we are done.. The FB site popularity is coming closer to qbasic one (see alexa.com), nobody will "steal" users from nobody.

Every single person that contributed to FB came or used to be from the QB community, that's not like we created a commercial alternative just to milk QB, spamming it all around. The whole project has over 100K lines of BASIC and C code, i would like to see the "don't join the dark side" people doing a better contribution to QB, besides playing the poor victim or the crazy terrorist one. Dunno, create a text-mode QB-IDE clone, help making FB more compatible, just bitching in forums won't help nada.
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« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2014, 05:05:26 PM »

I stumbled upon this thread while searching for something else...

Wow how time flies!

I haven't done anything with QBasic since I posted this. Been too busy with life.
My personal website, www.tecbrat.com, has become my business site. I'm now a business owner and a Web Developer.
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