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Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Adigun A. Polack on May 14, 2005, 01:50:50 AM
Most UNFORGETTABLY dearest beloved QB45/QB71/FB community ( :D=b ! ),

Welcome to you all, and in honor of my 500th post here, I have just brought back MANY of my amazing Original Artworks from my previous website, plus brand-new and even some classic works that you have *never* even seen before.  Please, feel downright free to view them all right here (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/origarts/) now.

Thank you all so much, and this post is just my special and precious way of giving this all to you on purpose, really to be a blessing especially.  Be seeing you!!!  ;)



MAKING THIS ONE WORTH TRULY REMEMBERING,

(http://forum.qbasicnews.com/users/file.php?id=32)
Adigun Azikiwe Polack
One of the Founders of “Aura Flow” ::: Continuing Developer of “Frantic Journey”
Current Developer of “Star Angelic Slugger” ::: Webmaster of the “AAP Official Projects Squad (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/)”
Original Creator of the “The New FreeBASIC 8-Bit Palette Machine (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/fbpal/index.html)”


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Rattrapmax6 on May 14, 2005, 10:07:55 AM
:o ...........d=:D=b... Very nice!!!!

I must ask tho,.. did you air-brush some of those? or they all computer art? :)


Title: Rattrapmax6, have I got an answer for you! ^_^ !
Post by: Adigun A. Polack on May 14, 2005, 10:46:50 AM
To Rattrapmax6:

As for me air-brushing my designs, no, not really.  However, a lot of my artworks — like “Hericorn of the Heavenly Night”, “A Blissful Heaven”, and “Dragon that Gives Rainbows” — were first done simply in colored pencil and/or graphic designer pencils and/or even thick wet paint that was actually melted from the points of colored/watercolored pencils, and then added a well-needed handful of computer-based special effects (like custom lens flares, Xero Mistifier, and some of that other jazz!  ;) ) to the mix once I finally scanned them to the computer.  Truly very fun once you get the hang of it all, you know what I am saying, man?  :D !

And, as well, I want you to know that the following designs of mine so far........
    •
Dragon Spirit Rising
• Rainbow LeafDragon
• Sunlight Amidst the Rain
• The Silky Sea
• Fireball Flare Colony
• Hyperspeed!!
• We’re Outta Here!
• Mermaid of the Moonlight Flourishing Oasis
• Blazing in the Beautiful Sunset
• The Sword and the Beautiful Moonlight
[/list]
........have exclusively been created on the computer *only* rather instead of on paper at all.  Do not forget that now!  :cool:

And also, I thank you for your fine comment, Rattrapmax6!!  See you around, and so wonderful to have you here!!!  (^_^)v



(http://forum.qbasicnews.com/users/file.php?id=32)
- Adigun Azikiwe Polack
One of the Founders of “Aura Flow” ::: Continuing Developer of “Frantic Journey”
Current Developer of “Star Angelic Slugger” ::: Webmaster of the “AAP Official Projects Squad (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/)”
Original Creator of the “The New FreeBASIC 8-Bit Palette Machine (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/fbpal/index.html)”


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Rattrapmax6 on May 14, 2005, 04:23:55 PM
:) Yeah, just some of it reminded me of effects you could do with a air-brush... Still, very nice art work there.. ^_-

Edit,. hmm,. do you recomend any type of colored pincels? I never seem to find any of quality..  :roll:


Title: Let me give you my recommendation here, man. ;)
Post by: Adigun A. Polack on May 14, 2005, 07:55:53 PM
To Rattrapmax6 again:

Look, if there is a brand of colored-pencil makers that I would *definitely* recommend, my man, it has gotta be Derwent.  :D  And ohh my, they got AWESOME types of quality colored and watercolored pencils, including a couple of rather practical color names of chocolate and gunmetal, too!  In addition, they create such outstanding different other kinds of pencils that you can name, pastel, studio, signature, metallic, the whole works, you know what I’m saying?  :cool: !

By the way, I was VERY fortunate enough to have received the whole 72-colored-pencil set from Derwent just this past Christmas!!  I have not used it as of yet, but I will soon!  ^_- !  Have a quick look:

(http://forum.qbasicnews.com/users/file.php?id=58)

Nice, huh?  :king:

And let us not forget that the *official* Derwent website is located at http://www.pencils.co.uk/.  In the site, it features very many fascinating pieces of info about their whole entire line-up of pencil and accessory products, plus some great history about how their pencils were made, taking you back in time to as early as the year 1500!!  :o  Truly amazing stuff that you gotta read, Rattrapmax6, I must say now!!!  :D

Well, I thank you so much again for such a wonderful time this Saturday.  God bless you and you have yourself a splendidly good weekend and the brand-new week to come as well!!!  ;)=b !



SHARING WITH YOU SOME OF THE BEST TONIGHT,

(http://forum.qbasicnews.com/users/file.php?id=32)
Adigun Azikiwe Polack
One of the Founders of “Aura Flow” ::: Continuing Developer of “Frantic Journey”
Current Developer of “Star Angelic Slugger” ::: Webmaster of the “AAP Official Projects Squad (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/)”
Original Creator of the “The New FreeBASIC 8-Bit Palette Machine (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/fbpal/index.html)”


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Mech1031 on May 14, 2005, 08:02:36 PM
Derwents are nice, but in my opinion, they are more well known for they're sketching/drafting pencils.  i wouldn't recommend their colored pencils because they don't fill enough, and the tones are a bit, well, i guess i can't describe it, but i'm not too fond of it.  

however, if you want high quality for a fair price, i recomend prismacolor.  they not only blend great, but the colors are just outstanding.  not to mention prismacolor makes excellent markers that match the exact colors of the pencils.  so if you use "Spanish orange (P1270)" as a base color using the marker, you can touch up and or shade with a "Spanish Orange (P1270)" pencil.  not to spam up the place but i've tried alot of different brands, and Prismacolor is by far the best in my opinion.

EDIT:

nice stuff AAP


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Rattrapmax6 on May 14, 2005, 08:11:35 PM
:) Awesome, Thanks! Sounds like some great pencils.. :wink:

Edit: lol, @Mech: heh... that makes for two brands.. :lol:  :wink:


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Spotted Cheetah on May 14, 2005, 08:18:22 PM
Looks certainly good!  :D

But the page loads for ages... I do not know how you did, but you disabled right - clicking so i could not check what you made to those images. I think they should not have such a huge size that the introductional page had to load for more than 10 minutes for me. On the other hand i can get anything what appears on the screen if i want, but you effectively disabled problem hunting for me :evil: (I just wanted to mention that if you display something you can not prevent downloading it if somebody really wants to, not that i will steal anything. Just got a bit annoyed of it).

Mech: Your avatar is a Cheetah? :D (Hope not, but everyone leaves "tear marks" from their face  :-? )


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Rattrapmax6 on May 14, 2005, 08:34:26 PM
Quote from: "Spotted Cheetah"
I do not know how you did, but you disabled right - clicking so i could not check what you made to those images.[...]but you effectively disabled problem hunting for me :evil: (I just wanted to mention that if you display something you can not prevent downloading it if somebody really wants to, not that i will steal anything. Just got a bit annoyed of it).


Its a clever trick (Tho bypassible(Thats what the CopyRight is for..)), don't see why its so annoying.. if he doesn't want any1 copying picks then why should he? And others might just up and still somthing and credit take for it..


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Mech1031 on May 14, 2005, 08:44:59 PM
Quote from: "Rattrapmax6"
And others might just up and steal somthing and credit take for it..


welcome to the world of online art.  if someone really wants your work, they'll find a way to take it, right click or no right click =P


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Spotted Cheetah on May 14, 2005, 08:51:22 PM
As i said it is pointless. I can get anything what appears on my desktop, no matter how hard you are triing to make it impossible. I would accept a challenge in this subject if you wish (Getting all the artwork :) ), but that would not be really kind to Adigun. As i said i do not want to "steal".

It just annoyed me because this way it was impossible to find out the actual size of those images what possibly made the page so slow, so i could not give any idea to speed things a little up.


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Rattrapmax6 on May 14, 2005, 08:55:48 PM
Wounders who could do it faster? hehehe.... jk

Yeah, I get the pointless... know it already,.. this why I havn't yet posted any of my automotive designs.. :lol:

 :roll:  :wink:


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Spotted Cheetah on May 14, 2005, 09:02:34 PM
Quote
Wounders who could do it faster? hehehe.... jk


Damn! I lost!!! With my 3Kb/s + downloading Linux kernel i would not finish it until next week :lol:

But then why is this security if anybody around can pass it  :-?


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Rattrapmax6 on May 14, 2005, 09:17:17 PM
Guess its the thought that counts... who knows.. I think that code for Right click was desined for the source code to the site used on... :wink:


Title: Here is the current situation, guys.
Post by: Adigun A. Polack on May 14, 2005, 09:28:28 PM
To Spotted Cheetah:

Here is the situation on you here.  I can (for a limited time only) arrange the downloads to be presented on my pages as a technical way to prevent LONG page loads for you there.  But there is a *big* risk involved with that, as it might open up a gaping hole of a possibility of at least some people using that very method as no more than an excuse to just steal my arts and even call them theirs (which I absolutely forbid there myself!), so I will leave it up to the people writing in this thread as to whether or not this is a good idea before agreeing with you on that.  That way, I want to make certain of what is best for my works of art, understand please?  :) !

Until then, about the only thing you can do so far is to contact me at my new E-mail address shown on my Copyright Notice section.  That is the only sure access you will be able to reach (for now) towards using my artworks for personal use, blogs, or on your website with my accepted permission from you.  It is the only way, man.

Anyway, thank you so much for your concern.  :cool:



And finally, I go over to you, Mech1031:

I have tried Prismacolor pencils myself some several number of years back (namely, the metallic ones!), and they worked *truly* great, too — and I still have them today, thank God!  :cool:  So yes, you are very correct about them, as I have learned from experience, Mech1031.  ^-^ !



Be catching you both again, Spotted Cheetah and Mech1031, as I get back now to what I need to do tonight.  ;)



(http://forum.qbasicnews.com/users/file.php?id=32)
- Adigun Azikiwe Polack
One of the Founders of “Aura Flow” ::: Continuing Developer of “Frantic Journey”
Current Developer of “Star Angelic Slugger” ::: Webmaster of the “AAP Official Projects Squad (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/)”
Original Creator of the “The New FreeBASIC 8-Bit Palette Machine (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/fbpal/index.html)”


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: moochthemonkey on May 14, 2005, 11:26:43 PM
Wow, those were awesome. I wish I could draw.


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Rattrapmax6 on May 15, 2005, 10:26:07 AM
Quote from: "moochthemonkey"
Wow, those were awesome. I wish I could draw.


Where there is a will,. there is a way..  :wink: .. And besides, all a drawing is a bunch of lines created via pincel or Mouse (Comp).. So as practice: Start, draw striate lines, then curves, circles, ect... then study other drawings to see how each element goes to the different effects.. Experimentation is also good for learning..  :wink:


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Z!re on May 15, 2005, 12:27:41 PM
The site is slow because it's made with freakin word.
And the images are huge..
And it uses half a million "fancy" scripts..

~25kb
http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/origarts/aaporig_col003.gif

~600kb
http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/origarts/images/aaporig_col003_full.png

There are 21 thumbnails, if we count ~20kb/thumb, we get: 420kb


Take all the above, and add a crappy low bandwidth server..




And disabling rightclick?.. come on.. "View source" anyone?..
Not to mention I could still rightclick in FireFox...




AAP, learn PHP, make a proper site.. or even learn HTML.. whatever you do, STOP USING WORD FOR MAKING YOUR SITE!


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: aetherfox on May 15, 2005, 02:05:29 PM
Disabling right click is basically a way for people who discovered JavaScript to pretend like they are special and to give them a false sense of security when it comes to their "precious" artwork.

   1)  Not to burst your bubble AAP, but you're art ain't good enough that people are going to want to steal it.
   2) It is so easy to 'steal' your art in 10 different ways it's not even funny.
   3) Your artwork is so highly unoptimized I doubt anyone is going to sit around waiting for it to load so they can steal it anyway.

Sadly, Z!re was not joking, you do actually use Microsoft Word to make the websites.  If you are going to resort to that, I'd recommend at least FrontPage or Dreamweaver...at least they produce better code than Microsoft Word.

You've also used IE specific styles - a BIG no-no in the world of proper web design.  Probably the fault of Word, which in reality is your fault for using...Word...to make a website.

I suggest you Google for real HTML tutorials, and take the time to learn them.  Better yet, ask someone who knows how to do it if they will do it for you.  However, I highly doubt that someone is interested in writing code for a site that is so full of self-righteous propaganda...

As for the artwork - some of it is better than I expected - I personally dislike the ones that are clearly scanned from hand-drawings and ones that are coloured by hand.

This piece amused me: http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/origarts/col012.html
The description was downright hilarious for a perspective skewed texture that does a poor job of looking like "luxurious purple water, its huge and massive body a gooey consistency not unlike that of soft and warm creamy mud."

Have you ever heard of Bryce?


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Rattrapmax6 on May 15, 2005, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: "Z!re"
And disabling rightclick?.. come on.. "View source" anyone?..


My IE browser can veiw source w/o right click. On mine 2 ways. "Veiw>Source" from menu.. and "Edit>FrontPage" Or "Edit>NotePad"... course that 1 doesn't aways work, it doesn't in this Poster thing, but it does on many other sites I've been on..  :wink:


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: Z!re on May 15, 2005, 02:30:24 PM
That was sort of my point you know...

Why disable rightclick when people can still just do a "View Source" and get all the info they would ever want.


Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
Post by: MystikShadows on May 15, 2005, 02:33:28 PM
or make available offline....and pics get download in a very efficient way lol


Title: Let’s talk this through right here, in an uncompromised way.
Post by: Adigun A. Polack on May 15, 2005, 03:51:42 PM
To AetherFox and Z!re:

I gotta confess something in this post, so listen up.  :) !

In the past, ever since the birth of the AAP Official Homepage, yes, I have originally created webpages using MS Word ( :( ), but then I had to change some HTML code.  And AetherFox, I gotta be real dead-on honest with you here: now that you told me that using Word is *very* quite tedious and then some for the structure of HTML pages — and I did not even know that up to now — I will tell you what I’m gonna do:

    1  • I am gonna re-arrange and re-work on the HTML pages on my entire artworks section to no longer involve any “MS-Word”-based specifics at all.  :D

    2  • Next, I can optimize (and even reduce the size of, too!) the artworks viewed on my page to get rid of having to wait longer and longer for that pic to come up.

    3  • I can even ALLOW the downloads of my arts to be placed on my site, too (and *not* just for a limited time only either!).  :cool:
    [/list]

    AetherFox, as you just pointed out to me, even my kind of security on the artworks section has some gaping holes, even when I disabled right-clicking, too.  And Z!re, I must dare admit that you are no doubt correct about the difference between the file size of both the .GIFs and the .PNGs.  I am gonna take this into consideration on the changes that I am gonna do, so you hang on and see!  :D

    Going back to you, AetherFox: as for Bryce, yes, I have heard of that product, and yes, it also is some TRULY awesome stuff for making 3D graphics and all that jazz.  I cannot afford it at this time, however, as it is some very, very expensive software there.  :(  If you can, could you please show me some freeware-only alternatives for Bryce so that I can learn to do my computer artworks better?  Thanks a lot, as any help on this is no less than appreciated, man!!  ;)=b !

    AetherFox and Z!re, thank you both so much really honestly with all of my heart ( :king: ) for your concern, as you *do* want me to make better webpages and stuff, and I can understand that.  See you two fine folks later.



    GETTING READY TO CHANGE SOME THINGS TODAY,

    (http://forum.qbasicnews.com/users/file.php?id=32)
    Adigun Azikiwe Polack
    One of the Founders of “Aura Flow” ::: Continuing Developer of “Frantic Journey”
    Current Developer of “Star Angelic Slugger” ::: Webmaster of the “AAP Official Projects Squad (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/)”
    Original Creator of the “The New FreeBASIC 8-Bit Palette Machine (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/fbpal/index.html)”


    Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
    Post by: moochthemonkey on May 15, 2005, 03:56:33 PM
    Quote from: "Rattrapmax6"
    Quote from: "moochthemonkey"
    Wow, those were awesome. I wish I could draw.


    Where there is a will,. there is a way..  :wink: .. And besides, all a drawing is a bunch of lines created via pincel or Mouse (Comp).. So as practice: Start, draw striate lines, then curves, circles, ect... then study other drawings to see how each element goes to the different effects.. Experimentation is also good for learning..  :wink:


    thanks for that:)


    Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
    Post by: Z!re on May 15, 2005, 03:57:27 PM
    I didnt make any point about PNGs or GIFs

    You save your images with too many colors, making them take up more space than needed.


    Quote from: "Adigun A. Polack"
    Thanks for the advice, I'll try to do as you have suggessted


    Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
    Post by: Spotted Cheetah on May 15, 2005, 07:26:40 PM
    Try Gimp. I wondered first how good it was at image optimizing. For JPG usually 80% quality + 20% smoothness turns out well (For others: usually smoothness=100-quality). For PNG/GIF with a good dithering algorithm usually 64 colors is enough for almost anything, but this varies. Some images look good even with just 16 colors while some others can be ruined with even 256 colors (so make JPG instead...). My usual 120*90 thumbnalis are never larger than 2-4Kb.


    Word + HTML: better to throw that mess off the window  :D


    Title: Excellent advices, Z!re and Spotted Cheetah. Thanks!! ^-^
    Post by: Adigun A. Polack on May 15, 2005, 07:47:21 PM
    To Z!re again:

    Hey, that’s right!!  ( :o )  Wow, I once might have noticed a BIG difference in the reduction of file sizes myself, whereas a picture with smaller colors indeed will obviously amount to a smaller file size versus the very same picture with larger amounts of colors that will result to a huge chunk of file size, even if they are the same *exact* physical size.  I’m a take your advice here into serious consideration, Z!re.  Mark my words.  :D

    And let us not forget: very excellently said from you, by the way!!  :cool:=b



    And also to you, Spotted Cheetah:

    I have not even tried the GIMP yet, but I promise you that it will be worth a shot on the image optimizing thing you just talked about.  And, I *strongly* agree with both you and Z!re on that.  I am gonna take your advice into serious consideration as well.  (^_-)//



    I wanna thank you both tonight for such a wonderful time, Z!re and Spotted Cheetah, and you two enjoy this brand-new week now as I get started!!  :D !



    (http://forum.qbasicnews.com/users/file.php?id=32)
    - Adigun Azikiwe Polack
    One of the Founders of “Aura Flow” ::: Continuing Developer of “Frantic Journey”
    Current Developer of “Star Angelic Slugger” ::: Webmaster of the “AAP Official Projects Squad (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/)”
    Original Creator of the “The New FreeBASIC 8-Bit Palette Machine (http://dhost.hopto.org/aapproj/fbpal/index.html)”


    Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
    Post by: Z!re on May 15, 2005, 07:48:37 PM
    You're welcome.


    Title: The return of my Original Artworks section has now arrived!!
    Post by: aetherfox on May 16, 2005, 05:13:02 AM
    My point was that Bryce produces what you were trying to make in that picture infintely more realistically in a shorter time.

    Try POV-Ray...it's free.

    GIMPShop rocks, it's basically a version of GIMP that is recompiled with the Photoshop interface - brilliant idea.