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Title: Small question...
Post by: Rokkuman on February 22, 2005, 10:16:22 PM
Does anyone know what method these two comics use to color the characters in their comics? Or if their methods are even the same?

(http://www.devilsdue.net/5pagers/reloaded12/images/reloaded_12_05.jpg)
(http://www.devilsdue.net/5pagers/sf13/images/sf_13_03.jpg)

I'm really hoping it's some form of digital art.


Title: Small question...
Post by: whitetiger0990 on February 23, 2005, 12:15:17 AM
first one really looks like digital...
second one kind of harder to tell.... but now adays a lot of the time they are digitally colored.


Title: Small question...
Post by: Diroga on February 23, 2005, 02:03:26 AM
the first one is amrican and the second one is american trying to look japanese like.


Title: Small question...
Post by: jsmith71 on February 23, 2005, 02:26:37 AM
Quote from: "Diroga"
the first one is amrican and the second one is american trying to look japanese like.

And that had nothing to do with his question at all. :P
Personally I think they both look digitally done... Though I can't really just look at something like that and give you an accurate answer... I'm far from a pro at, erm... Telling whether or not a comic is digitally colored?


Title: Diroga
Post by: neuro on February 23, 2005, 04:32:34 AM
Diroga - just a little note on your signature...

(pi^4+pi^5)^(1/6) < e
there is no relationship between them.
ln(-1)=pi*i  is closer, or the classic expression
e^(pi*i)=-1


Title: Re: Diroga
Post by: KiZ on February 23, 2005, 10:29:43 AM
Quote from: "neuro"
Diroga - just a little note on your signature...

(pi^4+pi^5)^(1/6) < e
there is no relationship between them.


They are close... ;P
only  0.00000002 out

although i suppose that is big in numbers inloving powers of e other complex equations etc


Title: Small question...
Post by: na_th_an on February 23, 2005, 11:09:08 AM
Both are computer made. Photoshop. Scanning at 600 bpp in black and white (bitmap) and using layers and a good tablet. You better use a Mac G4 (even a G3 would do) or a very modern PC. The documents are huge.


Title: Small question...
Post by: Rokkuman on February 23, 2005, 11:02:29 PM
It seems to be working well on my computer. I set the size to 8 by 11 inches, drew a little bit, and the program seemed to respond smoothly. It may be a different story with the pixels all being filled in, but we'll see. As soon as I get my tablet and SCANNER. >=[

Thanks for the replies, all of you. :)

EDIT: Wow....................... heh.... those are pretty... expensive.... =[


Title: Small question...
Post by: jsmith71 on February 24, 2005, 01:08:06 AM
Quote from: "Rokkuman"
It seems to be working well on my computer. I set the size to 8 by 11 inches, drew a little bit, and the program seemed to respond smoothly. It may be a different story with the pixels all being filled in, but we'll see.

I'd just like to point out that a white pixel is still technically 'filled in'. :wink:
Oh, and tablets aren't TOO expensive... My Wacom Graphire 2 4x3 (not much I know, but for me it's just fine) was about a hundred bucks... And it's probably much cheaper now.


Title: Small question...
Post by: na_th_an on February 24, 2005, 08:41:40 AM
Rocku: 8x11" at 600 dpi makes a 4800 * 6600 pixels image. Such a huge image in photoshop takes 126.720.000 bytes (almost 128 Mb) per layer. The minium amount of layers is two: one for the lineart and another one for the colour art. Normally you need more. That means that your document can take up to 512 Mb in RAM. Normally people who work with those documents have a dedicated hard disk only for swapping, i.e. a "scratch disk" measuring 30 to 40 Mb.

I have 512 Mb of fast memory and I usually work a 300 dpi. My comics are drawn in A4 or A5 (metrical system, measures are roughly 8x11 and 5.5x8, respectively.) and I can work fairly well. But 8x11, 600 dpi is huge. That's why I mentioned Macs, as PowerPC processors seem more suited to this kind of stuff.

About prices, I got my Genius scanner for $80 and my NGS 6x8" tablet for $95. Wacom may be good, but it's to expensive. Mine gives me 1024 pressure levels, twice as the Graphire does, it is twice as big and costs the half.

Check http://www.ngslurbe.com/html/publicauk/detalleproducto.asp?id=30&ids=12

(it's my tablet)


Title: Small question...
Post by: KiZ on February 24, 2005, 11:43:15 AM
Rockuman:  Did your name just change? Or have I gone mad?


Title: Small question...
Post by: jsmith71 on February 24, 2005, 09:11:42 PM
Quote from: "na_th_an"
Rocku: 8x11" at 600 dpi makes a 4800 * 6600 pixels image. Such a huge image in photoshop takes 126.720.000 bytes (almost 128 Mb) per layer. The minium amount of layers is two: one for the lineart and another one for the colour art. Normally you need more. That means that your document can take up to 512 Mb in RAM. Normally people who work with those documents have a dedicated hard disk only for swapping, i.e. a "scratch disk" measuring 30 to 40 Mb.

I have 512 Mb of fast memory and I usually work a 300 dpi. My comics are drawn in A4 or A5 (metrical system, measures are roughly 8x11 and 5.5x8, respectively.) and I can work fairly well. But 8x11, 600 dpi is huge. That's why I mentioned Macs, as PowerPC processors seem more suited to this kind of stuff.

About prices, I got my Genius scanner for $80 and my NGS 6x8" tablet for $95. Wacom may be good, but it's to expensive. Mine gives me 1024 pressure levels, twice as the Graphire does, it is twice as big and costs the half.

Check http://www.ngslurbe.com/html/publicauk/detalleproducto.asp?id=30&ids=12

(it's my tablet)

Half? Actually that's about the same price. :wink:  Still, awesome deal.
And uh... Yeah, I think rocku's name did just change. What the...?  :???:


Title: Small question...
Post by: Rokkuman on February 24, 2005, 09:16:45 PM
Yep. Wildcard kindly changed it to Rokkuman for me because I only just realised that people were reading it as "Rock-U-Man", as in "Rock You Man", which is absoLUTELY not what I want. Rokkuman should get the pronunciation across a little better.


Title: Small question...
Post by: DrV on February 24, 2005, 09:19:19 PM
Argh... you shouldn't have said that.  Now I'll think of 'rock-u-man' whenever I see it.   :P   Nobody seems to pronounce my nick correctly either.


Title: Small question...
Post by: ThaMariuZ on February 25, 2005, 10:47:45 AM
doctor wee?