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Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on November 29, 2004, 03:11:07 PM
Hello again, time for new release

uploaded to new location -thank you marinedalek

"Homepage" : http://www.hot.ee/fbide/
win32 installer version: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/fbide/FBIde033.exe?download
win32installer + fbc0.12: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/fbide/FBIde33a%2BFBC012.exe?download
src: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/fbide/src033.rar?download

Changelog:
0.3.1 - 0.3.3 ( 0.3.2 was never released to public )
Fixed / Changed
   * Sometimes window scrollbars get screwed when pasting
   * Now a lot better error-reporting
   * Some syntax indenting problems
   * added new keywords to syntaxfile
   * some other bugfixes

New features
   * Margin folding
   * syntax converting to BB or html code
   * QuickRun (without save -uses temp file)

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01.16.2005

Hi again, quick releaseof (0.3.1):
Fixed:
   * exiting problem.
   * Compiler options no longer opens about dialog.
   * single click after another in the sub/function dialog will go to desired place without closing the window.

Get it here: www.hot.ee/wizgui/setup.exe

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01.15.2005

Hi again,

after a while I'm again done with another release of FBIde, some things are still not ready, But I thought that I'd release what I have so far, since this edition has just too many important updates:D
anyway here's the changelog:

http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/setup.exe

0.2 - 0.3
Fixed / Changed
   * When passing filenames to the FBC, the filenames are now quoted -avoid many errors.
   * After program close, IDE will stay in focus
   * On Windows NT based systems cmd.exe is used instead of command.com
   * single line IF's are no longer indented
   * Promt changed to Prompt :)
   * Little menu reconstruction
   * When selecting theme's then default appfolder\IDE is now opened
   * Better installer -tnx to Badjas!
   * Everytime smth is changed in teh option menu, changes are automatically saved, instead of saving them at exit.

New features
   * Search / replace / goto line now 100% finished
   * Ability to get program exit code's (especially good for debugging)
   * Matching brace highlighting
   * IDE shows line and column number in the statusbar
   * About dialog.

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12.30.2004

Hello,

After long time I'm ready with another release. It's not mutch better then previous, so Don't expect mutch, just some bugfixes, and few new features.
You can dl it here: www.hot.ee/wizgui/setup.exe
0.1 - 0.2
Fixed / Changed
   * Some indentation problems.
   * Some other bugs as well.
   * All Ide files moved to Ide\ to keep things cleaner.

New features
   * Compile/run/compile and run buttons on toolbar
   * costomizible compiler paramater list
   * parameter passing to your program
   * stolen (only temprarily) icons from Dev-Cpp
   * installer (crappy one)

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11.12.2004

Quick note: uploaded 0.1a -if no paths is set then is assumed the files are in the same dir as fbide.exe http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIde.exe


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Hello, now finally new version is ready, it still needs a loads of work, but I think it's getting better -or os it just me and my ego?

anyway here's the link: http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIde.exe
NOTE: please read readme's becouse they exmplain how to set up editor. Also if you extract it to c:\fbide and your fbc path is in c:\freebasic then all settings are in place :wink:

Also I put the source code with it. All kind of constructive criticism and suggestions are welcome. You may use however the source as you see fit. Though credit is in order where credit is due.

0.0.0.1278 - 0.1
Fixed / changed
   * indentation problems
   * removed pulldown sub/function menu
   * removed (for now) syntax checking
   * config files cchanged
   * Editor "remembers" previous settings
   * view menu problem is fixed
   * many other bugs
   * syntax keyword list is no longer built in into editor, but is loaded from a file.

New features
   * toolbar buttons
   * helping text in the statusbar
   * advanced autoindent that indents languagestructures
   * Sub/function browser
   * possibility to set compile command prototype

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05.12.2004
New version from: http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIde2174.zip

0.0.0.1278 - 0.0.0.2174
Fixed / Changed
   * New line selecting after in indented liens (sometimes jumped to other positions)
   * File saving. Sometimes saved a new file under previously loaded file name.
   * Changed cmd promt command from "cmd" to "command.com" so it's now possible to use it on win95/98

New features:
   * Full theme (syntax colour selection) support.
   * added into run menu: compile, compile & run, and run. (FBC.exe path must be set -see "fbide.ini" for more info.
   * Shows (if there was one) compilation error and automatically goes to error line.
   * it's now possible to load bas file by either accotiating .bas/.bi to fbide or just dragging them over the ide.

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1.12.2004

New Version:
http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIde1278.rar

CHANGELOG:
0.0.0.253 - 0.0.0.1278
Fixed / Changed:
   *Tab back indenting -coused text deleting
   *Added Cancel option when promting to save or not.
   *Didplays automatically .bas and .bi extensions in load/save dialogs
   *Fixed cursor color (for now...)
   *Changed end of line markers color to white.
   *Restrucured menus

New features:
   *Text Highlighting ON/OFF
   *Basic syntax check (counts parenthesis and their directions,basic string literal completetion and etc...)
   *Added Run CMD into menus.
   *Added indentation guides.
   *Added Sub/Procedure selector (needs refreshing though)
   *executable is smaller.

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29.11.2004
Hello to you all,

Few days ago I started experimenting with c++ and wanted to put my nonexistent(but hopefully growing) skills on test and try to make an IDE for FreeBasic. Well now here is the first release of it. It's NOT ready and it needs a lot of stuff before it can claim to be an IDE, but all kind of constructive criticism is welcome and ideas too of course.

well here's the dl link: http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIde.rar

Hope you'll like it...[/b]


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on November 29, 2004, 04:19:28 PM
Well, since the other thread's in brainfart gridlock, I'll throw in a few thoughts here:

Try and focus less on "the QB ide".  I mean, in dos, the blue background was the seal of quality, pretty much every Microsoft product had a blue black if it operated in text mode, but windowed in front of a desktop it just kind looks wierd.  Same goes for the terminal font.  Courier is well the standard for code editing nowadays, there's no shame in conforming.  That's all aesthetics, and ideally you'd have font/bgcolor settings in the final version.  But remember that most people who don't know QB, and a lot of people who do know QB are going to find that wierd.  If you have a fetish for blue and white, then options can be there to make it look like QB's.

I like the highlighting of the present line.  It could help you manage multiple-line statements and pick up on line run-on errors (or I guess in FB it'd be line cut-off errors?).  Props.  There's some errors with it.  It pretty much just highlights the bottom line... but if it simply highlighted the present line in some way that doesn't make it stand out too much, that'd be a unique, helpful feature.

Stupid stuff, the the frames on the edge oughta be razor-thin or clearly indicate a fucntion.  I imagine you could easily change that in the future, no biggie.

In its present state, I can't critique much.  The stuff I do critique is all, well, aesthetic or "I want this feature", etc.  If you have code attached to it, I can critique the code, and that will be more useful in making sure you can go the stretches you need to without holing yourself up in a corner at some point, though there's not much I can say in response to "I got it under control".


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: urger on November 29, 2004, 07:16:12 PM
It's a good start.

Looks wise i'd like to see a menu where I can select the color that thing would be highlighted in, as well as the ability to control the backround color.

Functionality wise I saw only two  "must have" additions at this current stage.
1)  The QB "whitespace remover" that automaticly removed extreous spaces that weren't inside a quote.
2) The save, save as, and open dialogs should be set to *.bas instead of any file

There was also one "nice to have feature": the abiltiy to open a new instance of the browser from the file menu.


Other then that, this is an excellent start to the FB IDE!


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Marcade on November 30, 2004, 07:16:28 AM
Very nice!

Hmm. I wish there was a proper syntax highlighting textbox for Visual Basic.  :cry:

Does anyone happen to know such thing for VB?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Neo on November 30, 2004, 08:31:04 AM
Use the RichTextBox Control if you want to have something textbox-like.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Marcade on November 30, 2004, 08:34:31 AM
Quote from: "Neo"
Use the RichTextBox Control if you want to have something textbox-like.


Crap, this is the only board where I forgot to mention I did not want to use the RTB. :o


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: adosorken on November 30, 2004, 08:55:58 AM
http://www.nodtveidt.net/CMax21.exe

This was officially discontinued by its creators, but when they found out that so many people loved it, they figured they could restart the project and start charging for it. This link is for the last freeware version. I've used this in both IDEs I've developed.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Marcade on November 30, 2004, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: "adosorken"
http://www.nodtveidt.net/CMax21.exe

This was officially discontinued by its creators, but when they found out that so many people loved it, they figured they could restart the project and start charging for it. This link is for the last freeware version. I've used this in both IDEs I've developed.


That's a pretty nice thing. It contains a hell of a more than I would probably use though, but it's the nicest thing I've seen this far for VB.

Thanks.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: aetherfox on November 30, 2004, 10:14:58 AM
Nek, we aren't using that on our IDE.  No chance.  Write it from scratch, we shall.

To tell you the truth, I really don't see the point in using any more than the standard controls apart from getting a nice save dialog.  And imageindexing.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on November 30, 2004, 11:46:19 AM
imageindexing?  What for, icons?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Marcade on November 30, 2004, 01:39:05 PM
Quote from: "aetherfox"
Nek, we aren't using that on our IDE.  No chance.  Write it from scratch, we shall.

To tell you the truth, I really don't see the point in using any more than the standard controls apart from getting a nice save dialog.  And imageindexing.


What the heck are you going to use then?  :o The default textbox has a 64Kb limit and the richtextbox isn't really meant for code. :o (Not to mention the syntax highlighting stuff using selstart/select stuff is slow and ugly.)

That would be ironic. *Finally* having a freebasic compiler with no limits and then being stuck with an IDE with a 64kb limit. :D :D


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: MystikShadows on November 30, 2004, 01:45:51 PM
Well the textbox itself isn't limited to 64Kb, VB itself limits it that way....using the API the text box can be quickly changed to really unlimited ;-).

Like marcade, I recommend not using the RTB, you can try if you want to, but my own personal experience proved to be quite a contract to do and the RTB is bloated and slow at best for this kind of formatting.

CodeMax is the fastest control I've ever seen for this kind of job...and shouldn't be overlooked because it's a user control.  

On the other hand, I agree to at least try to use VB only intrisic controls.  But there will be consequences and repercussions if you try to use the RTB. :-).   A friendly advice from one who's been there done that and decided to use CodeMax instead ;-).


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on November 30, 2004, 02:34:31 PM
Hello,

It is not either standard textbox nor richtextcontrol, it's a costom widget from wxWindows. anyway I can load files as big as there is memory so it isn't a problem. And it's not CV, but c++(mingw)

If anyone thinks he wants to help then please, I'd more then happy.

Tnx for the ideas though.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on November 30, 2004, 02:38:35 PM
I probably can't help much... Most of my free time (being time that isn't committed to social or academic responsibilities) is spent making these inane posts, but I'd love to check out the source code.  PM me or something, or send to spam at betterwebber dot com.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on November 30, 2004, 03:24:06 PM
I'll put the source with next release online.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Marcade on November 30, 2004, 03:38:38 PM
Quote from: "VonGodric"
Hello,

It is not either standard textbox nor richtextcontrol, it's a costom widget from wxWindows. anyway I can load files as big as there is memory so it isn't a problem. And it's not CV, but c++(mingw)

If anyone thinks he wants to help then please, I'd more then happy.

Tnx for the ideas though.


We were talking about a possible IDE in VB, not your IDE. :) Your textbox is quite nice. :) Wish I could something like that in VB.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on November 30, 2004, 06:38:54 PM
IMO, the good:
I like the grey marker on the left side for the line numbers.
The syntax highlighting is good.
The whitespace is a nice feature that i like.  But maybe make the arrows white as well, just for consitency.
It looks like you got lots of features in like saving, undo, indenting, etc. etc.

the bad:
get rid of the grey bar when it's not being used for line numbers.
showing line endings is kinda useless.
it doesn't search specifically  .bas files when it opens and doesn't save specifically as .bas.
get rid of blue screen, or allow it to be customized.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: adosorken on November 30, 2004, 07:26:19 PM
The default VB textbox seems to be limited to the limits of the OS. In Windows 98, it has a limit of around 32KB. In XP, I've found no practical limit, as I've loaded 9MB files into it. Notepad seems to use the same exact control, which explains why Windows 98 Notepad can only load files of around 32KB and XP Notepad can load anything.

aetherFox: CodeMax was the "even easier" method I was referring to. The RTB can also be used, of course, it's just a lot more work to accomplish the very basics, such as scope indentation and syntax coloring. There are no other freely available controls or classes of any real worth, so one would have to be developed from scratch. It would also require digging very deep into the API, and I'm not sure either you or I have the kind of time to do such research. I've worked a lot with CodeMax, and it's a really stable control and is pretty powerful. :D Besides, it doesn't do ALL the work anyways...it's really nothing more than a syntax coloring textbox with unlimited data size but why it's so powerful is the methods you use to do the syntax coloring. You'll still have to handle some basics, but the coloring is handled and lets you work on more important aspects of your application...in this case, like line parsing. :D


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Z!re on November 30, 2004, 07:33:40 PM
Notepad can load files up to 64kb, VB textbox in 98 can hold 64kb, exactly... 65535bytes


The problem with notepad and large files, is that it can nly handle 65536b

A file at 50kb, with LONG lines, get a lot of line breaks added, each adding 2 bytes... you get the idea...

Longer lines, smaller files...



EDIT: Not 65535KB, but b.. changed


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: adosorken on November 30, 2004, 07:38:27 PM
Well that explains why I could sometimes load 37KB files. Didn't make a lot of sense at the time but now it does. Also makes sense why 20KB files with only a few characters per line would cause it to run out of memory quickly. Thanks for the clearing up, Z!re. :)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Z!re on November 30, 2004, 07:39:25 PM
And whats wrong with VonGodrics IDE?

It's fast, efficient, and has syntax highlighting, syntax checking etc..


And stop whining about the background and colors in general, he is going to implement display options...



*grr* :D


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on November 30, 2004, 07:44:43 PM
Hello,

barok that graybar has a special use there :wink:
The endline markers are now white, but I do use them sometimes.
The blue screen will be gone and will be possible to costomize. (technically it is possible already, though I have more pressing matters to finish, each type can have it's own font, (f/b)color, size, and font attributes(bold/italic...) )

Atm It has a basic errorchecking and codefixing, syntaxhighlighing and errorchecking can be set on/off.

while saving/loading appropriate file types are set. Also fixed(and invented more) bugs.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: adosorken on November 30, 2004, 07:52:05 PM
Codefixing? As in it fixes code that is errored? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo that is a no-no! It's not the job of the IDE to fix errored code, only to report it and possibly offer suggestions to fix it.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on November 30, 2004, 08:09:50 PM
hmmm can't it do things like: add missing " to the end of the line?
VB, QBIde does that. Well I was wrong, no errorfixing, but it let's you know.

also turns ? into PRINT like in qb

It's errorchecking isn't very advanced, it matched for parenthesis, their count and directions for example. so this: ))(( and (())) are errors -but it's one thing that happens(at least to me) quite a lot, but I have no errorpopups, just adds a flag in the front of the line, that there's errror (later will be that clicking on the flag will tell what the error is).

k


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: adosorken on November 30, 2004, 08:25:02 PM
Oh, you mean string literal completion. That's pretty much standard in any modern BASIC. :D I thought you were talking about actual errorfixing, which is a tremendous no-no because it often produces more errors than it fixes.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on November 30, 2004, 08:32:54 PM
I'm not yet crazy :evil:
 :lol:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on November 30, 2004, 09:42:08 PM
Looking good ;).


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on November 30, 2004, 09:43:46 PM
no codefixing!  just maybe cleaning up syntax, like auto-indent or it adds/gets rid of spaces.  at an absolute max it should tell you when the syntax you type in is illegal.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on November 30, 2004, 09:49:43 PM
I think he said it puts a red flag on the line with the error.  This is exactly what I'd hoped for.  Maybe a flag on the column'd be good too.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: aetherfox on December 01, 2004, 06:59:54 AM
All right Nek, contrary to what I said I'll trust your judgement.

Look guys, this IDE is version 0.verysmall.  He's done a nice job.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on December 01, 2004, 01:37:53 PM
Yeah, it's very nice for what he's got so far.  But it's kinda big IMO.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 01, 2004, 01:46:22 PM
Wow, I just noticed that.  How did it get to 3mb?  Are all wxWindows apps this big?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Sterling Christensen on December 01, 2004, 02:37:23 PM
Could it have been compiled with debugging info, none of the symbols stripped out, no size optimization, etc?

The fact that wxWindows is OOP alone couldn't explain it, right? :lol:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 01, 2004, 02:54:43 PM
Hello again,

First thanks for all the feedback:
I don't knwo why exec is that big, however I stripped it down now a bit, so it's a bit smaller now, but the diff is too small :cry:  I'll see what I can do.

Anyway here's new release:
http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIde1278.rar

CHANGELOG:
0.0.0.253 - 0.0.0.1278
Fixed / Changed:
   *Tab back indenting -coused text deleting
   *Added Cancel option when promting to save or not.
   *Didplays automatically .bas and .bi extensions in load/save dialogs
   *Fixed cursor color (for now...)
   *Changed end of line markers color to white.
   *Restrucured menus

New features:
   *Text Highlighting ON/OFF
   *Basic syntax check (counts parenthesis and their directions,basic string literal completetion and etc...)
   *Added Run CMD into menus.
   *Added indentation guides.
   *Added Sub/Procedure selector (needs refreshing though)
   *executable is smaller.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: aetherfox on December 01, 2004, 05:23:55 PM
Good job.  I like how this is turning out.  I only have one problem...and that is that this is turning out to be an IDE written separate to the compiler...an IDE should integrate with the compiler...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: na_th_an on December 01, 2004, 05:49:16 PM
I disagree. The IDE must call the compiler and be separate programs. That way you can switch IDEs if you don't like the default one.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on December 01, 2004, 06:45:24 PM
Hey, this is looking really good!  the syntax check is a bit buggy, but other than that good!  

I'm just wondering, the first thing i thought i wanted to see was what qb does with subs, but i also like what vb/c/whatever do with their subroutines as well (display them back to back)  what do people want for this?


wishlist:
print code function
ability to choose color for text box. (i like blue for qb, but this is fb!  it needs it own colour!)

I agree with na_th_an here.  this way we can switch to med or context or whatever this way.  What are the benefits of having an integrated compiler?  I don't see any.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 01, 2004, 06:51:24 PM
About the coloring:

It is currently in progress, I have rewritte the code now -os all settings are loaded from a string, so the string can be saved/loaded without problems. I guess in next release It will have completely costomizible "look&feel"

And I do agree, with bright desktops it does look a bit out of place that dark blue style, but I use quite dark scheming so it's perfect right now for me -I don't want that all-too-bright while I'm working.

and it is WIP everything is possible...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: urger on December 01, 2004, 07:11:31 PM
I like the way this project is going.
Only two points I see in this version, one of which has already been mentioned:
1)The syntax checking is a bit buggy
2)I'd like to be able to hide the drop down box that has "Refresh" located in it.  I work entirely using keyboard shortcuts when I code, so I'd perfer the extra lines of code that could be displayed there.  Of course others would like it thier way, so I guess it's another "nice to have" feature rather then anything major.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 03, 2004, 10:06:47 AM
Hello, thought to give some status report:

So far i'v done:
*full theme loading from a file.
*in run menu are working run, compile, compile & run.
*fbc.exe path is loaded from the specs file.
*catches errors and shows them if compilation wasn't successful.
*fixed problem with autoindent and indent(if highlighin is on then some indent lines disappeared) in general, sometimes after pressing enter it threw to anywhere, but next line.
*fixed after loading/saving old file and opening new file, that new file is no longer saved under previosly loaded file name ... haha that was nasty.

Things to do before next release:
*to fix bug: loading fbide with some file.
*bind view manu states to theme file
*add load theme into view menu
*save constantly new theme in the fbide.ini
*get run->parameters to work(simple textbox atm)
*fix mouse quickmenu
*get to extract the line number from error line

if anyone is interesting in theming files then here is an example(fully working one)
Code:
;[comment]             <-the type of what the settings are
;foreground=LIGHT GRAY <-class foreground
;background=NAVY       <-background
;font=       <-font name (not working atm)
;fontsize=12           <-font size
;fontstyle=italic      <-may be: italic, bold, underlined. To use more then one seperate with commas.
;capital=0             <-are capital letters or not. (o not, 1 is)

;[Possible colours]
;Sorry atm no rgb values, but these colornames will work.
;AQUAMARINE, white, BLUE, BLUE VIOLET, BROWN, CADET BLUE, CORAL, CORNFLOWER BLUE, CYAN, DARK GREY, DARK GREEN, DARK OLIVE ;GREEN, DARK ORCHID, DARK SLATE BLUE, DARK SLATE GREY DARK TURQUOISE, DIM GREY, FIREBRICK, FOREST GREEN, GOLD, GOLDENROD, ;GREY, GREEN, GREEN YELLOW, INDIAN RED, KHAKI, LIGHT BLUE, LIGHT GREY, LIGHT STEEL BLUE, LIME GREEN, MAGENTA, MAROON, MEDIUM ;AQUAMARINE, MEDIUM BLUE, MEDIUM FOREST GREEN, MEDIUM GOLDENROD, MEDIUM ORCHID, MEDIUM SEA GREEN, MEDIUM SLATE BLUE, MEDIUM ;SPRING GREEN, MEDIUM TURQUOISE, MEDIUM VIOLET RED, MIDNIGHT BLUE, NAVY, ORANGE, ORANGE RED, ORCHID, PALE GREEN, PINK, PLUM, :PURPLE, RED, SALMON, SEA GREEN, SIENNA, SKY BLUE, SLATE BLUE, SPRING GREEN, STEEL BLUE, TAN, THISTLE, TURQUOISE, VIOLET, :VIOLET RED, WHEAT, WHITE, YELLOW, YELLOW GREEN.

[General]
indentguide=false
linenumbers=false
whitespaces=false
borderline=false
syntaxhighlight=true
syntaxcheck=false
tabsize=3
fontsize=12

[default]
background=white
foreground=black
selectcolor=light grey
caret=black


[comment]
foreground=grey
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=italic
capital=0

[number]
foreground=blue
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=0
capital=0

[keyword]
foreground=black
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=bold
capital=0

[string]
foreground=blue
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=0
capital=0

[operator]
foreground=black
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=0
capital=0

[identifier]
foreground=black
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=0
capital=0


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on December 03, 2004, 12:23:17 PM
I Like the program!

Two problems, though:

> You need to exclude comments from syntax checking

> Maybe make the line numbers a little less intrusive? The margin is rather wide.

Keep up the good work, i would love to see the next release maybe have the option to compile? Shouldnt be hard or take long to implement.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: relsoft on December 04, 2004, 12:23:35 AM
Von:

Execute Keys

Like when I press F9 it can call a batch file I made.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 04, 2004, 01:09:53 AM
quickkeys that are currently in use and fully workable
    compile ->   ctrl+f9
    compile&run ->   f9
    run ->   shift+ctrl+f9
    dos promt ->   f8

    new ->   ctrl+n
    save ->    ctrl+s
    save as ->   ctrl+shift+s
    Open ->   Ctrl + o

    undo ->   ctrl +Z
    redo ->   ctrl + shift + z
    cut  ->   ctrl + x
    copy  ->   ctrl+ c
    paste  ->  ctrl+  v

    select all ->   ctrl +a
    select line ->   ctrl + l

    indent increase  ->   tab
    indent decrease  ->   shift + tab


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: relsoft on December 04, 2004, 01:12:36 AM
link?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on December 04, 2004, 04:43:04 AM
Quote from: "relsoft"
link?


Ditto. I like the layout too. I guess I just got here late becasue I was driving myself nuts trying to get Dx CRAP to work! :evil:

Anyway:
This is looking good though... I'd like a search/replace function though... if you feel like it!  :bounce:

...and if I haven't already missed it.  :roll:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on December 04, 2004, 07:44:44 AM
Another bug:

When you insert a line using enter, it inserts the line, but the cursor moves two rows down....

Quote from: "Dr_Davenstein"
I'd like a search/replace function though... if you feel like it!


Agreed


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 04, 2004, 11:21:24 AM
Quote from: "dark_prevail"
Another bug:

When you insert a line using enter, it inserts the line, but the cursor moves two rows down....

Quote from: "Dr_Davenstein"
I'd like a search/replace function though... if you feel like it!


Agreed
Fixed. Tnx. Searching and replace is on ToDo list. I already tryed them though, but had some strange problems, seems that standard search/find dialogs won't work becouse it is a costom(not std) textfield. so I have to do the manually, well I'll see to that, but it is most definately a MUST.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Nathan1993 on December 04, 2004, 03:31:21 PM
Can I please have the link that we all want to the *newest* versoin? :bounce:  :rotfl:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 04, 2004, 06:40:32 PM
the newest version is always at: http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIdedev.rar

BUT it is unofficial WIP and solely for testing / debugging.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 04, 2004, 08:46:55 PM
New version from: http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIde2174.zip

0.0.0.1278 -> 0.0.0.2174
Fixed / Changed
* New line selecting after in indented liens (sometimes jumped to other positions)
* File saving. Sometimes saved a new file under previously loaded file name.
* Changed cmd promt command from "cmd" to "command.com" so it's now possible to use it on win95/98

New features:
* Full theme (syntax colour selection) support.
* added into run menu: compile, compile & run, and run. (FBC.exe path must be set -see "fbide.ini" for more info.
* Shows (if there was one) compilation error and automatically goes to error line.
* it's now possible to load bas file by either accotiating .bas/.bi to fbide or just dragging them over the ide.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on December 04, 2004, 09:18:55 PM
awesome work man, this is getting better by the second!

I LOVE the error reporting! Makes life 10x easier.

a couple more things to report:

> Line numbers now not working.
> Syntax highlighting is on when the flag for it is off, and vice versa.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on December 05, 2004, 12:22:06 AM
you can still use line numbers.  click on view > line numbers.  

great job!

::EDIT::

it says it can't find c:\freebasic\std2.fbt yet i can't find such a file on sourceforge.

::EDIT2::

when i try to compile from my documents, it says error 24: file not found.  
it also says documents\first.bas

::EDIT3::

last edit.  found the std2.fbt file.  have it search for those files in the folder fbide is in.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on December 05, 2004, 03:01:07 AM
Coolness.  8)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: SJ Zero on December 05, 2004, 03:19:59 AM
This is the perfect companion to FB. Thanks.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 05, 2004, 04:02:30 AM
No, that's the point.  Line numbers don't work in this version.

The colors are really aesthetically unappealing.  Once again, you should NOT try and imitate QB, it looks ugly in a windows environment.  A professional-looking white background, blue keywords, green comments, black text & numbers and red strings would look far better to most people.  Runtime functions like "print" are not keywords(like "if" and "sub"), they're regular functions and should fit in.  Even if they were keywords, parenthesis should not be part of the keyword.  Bold text looks akward in fixed width fonts.  I know you can change it, but you want a default theme with the most appeal to the average user.

On this note the margin would better thinner (~10-16 pixels), with a lighter bg color and with a pixel thin line separating it from the main next.  It would be nice to have an option to turn it off as well.

I know you're still working on it, but the bottom margin is wasted space.  A nice status bar, displaying line and column numbers would look better there, or have nothing there at all.

As far as features go, I wonder how feasable it is to parse bi files and use them for syntax checking...

So far, so good, man, it's looking better every time.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on December 05, 2004, 04:41:30 AM
jofers: eh? are we talking about the same version?  0.0.0.2174.  Click on view, click on "show line numbers."  However, line numbers IS buggy.  Is this what you were talking about?

here's what i did.
1. check the line numbers.
2. check the syntax highlight.
3. the line numbers disappeared, yet the it remained checkmarked.

Here are some tips i found while spending 5 minutes playing with the compiler and reading the documentation.   to enhance your experience. ;)

1. Also, you obviously never checked out the ide much, as it QUITE possible to change the colours.  First of all, you should of noticed that when you open the newest ide, it says it cannot find a std2.fbt in your freebasic folder.  IF you check the folder where the ide is, you will notice that that std2.fbt IS in it, along with other similiar files.  drag them to c:\freebasic\.  You will now have a very nice white background with nice syntax highlighting.  

2. It's inconvenient to have to have the compiler and the themes in different folders.  So open FBIde.ini.  you will notice "fbcpath" and "themefile" that point to certain directories. (most likely c:\freebasic\).  get rid of the c:\freebasic\ on both so you won't get any errors.  this way you can have the compiler in the same directory as the ide.  

3. You can also create your own theme if none of them please you.  open std2.fbt in notepad or whatever program you wish.  You should notice that lots of variables are in there.  Edit the colours to get different colours.  

4.  You'll notice that there are 4 fbt files that came with the IDE.  if your tired of the current theme, first do number 2.  This'll change the directory for the themes to FBIde's directory.  next, change "std2.fbt" to one of the other themes in the folder.  From the qb ide colours to notepad colours to funky matrix colours, There's a few themes included that will get you started.

::EDIT::

5. try compiling a program that has a bug in it.  You'll immediately see that the bar to the left has a purpose: it harbours a helpful yellow arrow that points to the line that contains the error. :)  For this, i think that the bar can stay.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 05, 2004, 05:34:16 AM
And obviously, Barok, you did not check out my post much either.  Read more closely, and try again.

And here:
(http://www.betterwebber.com/stuff/bug.jpg)
It's the first and only thing I clicked.  No matter what I click, nothing in the form of line numbers show up.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Nexinarus on December 05, 2004, 05:53:39 AM
Ha tough job VonGodric, you have to please everyone ;). Your doing a good job though, id have no idea where to start. Are you making this in wxWidgets too btw? Or what? Interested, as you could port this, would be sweet.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 05, 2004, 06:50:19 AM
He doesn't have to please everybody, just me.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on December 05, 2004, 08:03:21 AM
Quote from: "Jofers"
And obviously, Barok, you did not check out my post much either.  Read more closely, and try again.It's the first and only thing I clicked.  No matter what I click, nothing in the form of line numbers show up.



Thanks for confirming that for me.



Quote from: "Jofers"
The colors are really aesthetically unappealing. Once again, you should NOT try and imitate QB, it looks ugly in a windows environment.


Actually, i quite like the qb theme, I am using it now. Remember, you can make your own themes, jofers, so no need to complain about the current ones ;)



Barok: If you had spent 1 minute reading the documentation, you wouldnt have needed both whole posts up there. Next time, instead of complaining because the path is wrong or its inconvienent to have the themes in the compiler folder, try realising you are meant to change them before running the program  :roll:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 05, 2004, 08:34:29 AM
Hello,

I'm sorry about the linenumbers -they are completely there, BUT their state while loading the program in the menu us set to false. So if in the theme file their state is smth else then in the menu they work in reverse mode. This will be fixed in the next release.

About Path's. Yes Oen fbide.ini in the notepad and set the path's of the default theme and fbc. exe and you'll have no problems.

also seems that argv[] doesn't take full path if the directory tree passed tyo it is too long -I didn't know that. I'll see what I can do about it.

Statusbar will have uses to it.

About that blue'ish theme -I personally like it. Am I (the developer) not allowed to use what I like? I do agree it looks out of place and  "aesthetically unappealing" on bright desktop themes. I totally agree -try with some dark theme :wink: If the path's however are set (in the fbide.ini) then default is exactly what you wanted: white bg, black keywords, red strings and so on.

Since it is Basic -qb successor(I mean FB) then things like Print and color and cls are part of the syntax. you don't like them? Turn highlighting off. And in the next version langauge keywords will be loaded from a file anyway -so you can strip them out if you so like.

But tnx for all the feedback!


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 05, 2004, 08:37:15 AM
Ah one more thing -next version will probably (not promising anything) have installer so no manual pathsetting or so needed. However installer doesn't depend on me, couse i'm not doin it, will see.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: aetherfox on December 05, 2004, 09:43:09 AM
Installers are easy to create...have you never used Clickteam Install Maker?

I think you shouldn't make an installer now.  Make sure the paths aren't absolute, make sure the rar directory is organised such that when extracted, the relative paths to the program won't be affected.

If you make an installer now, at the rate you are churning out these releases, people are going to have to keep installing/uninstalling, which will be frustrating.  Alternatively, you could offer a choice of both, installer and rar'ed directory.

On the actual IDE: Very well done.  I like the themes files, I'll be working on one now.  Reminds me alot of BB4Win...only the best shell ever.  I wish I knew more C++, I would have offered to help otherwise.

Is your source portable?  Then maybe you could shut those people up who bitched at me and Nek for wanting to write the IDE in VB.

Can't think of anything else at the moment.

Good job.

PS If I actually finish my theme, I'll send it to you, and feel free to stick it in the next version, maybe Jofers will stop complaining. :D


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: aetherfox on December 05, 2004, 09:52:20 AM
Bugs:

I also get the syntax highlight tick the wrong way around.
No line numbers.
The scrollbar at the bottom is always not fully scrolled.
I would like to see a toolbar with the features on them, it's not fun hunting through the menus.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 05, 2004, 10:03:33 AM
It's done using wxWindows(wxWidgets) framework library, so yeah this should be portable to: Linux/Unix, MacOS (8.x...9.xx), MacOSX, BeOS


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: SJ Zero on December 05, 2004, 01:46:58 PM
One feature I'm finding I can't live without is a search feature.

It shouldn't be hard to code, please do!


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: marzecTM on December 05, 2004, 02:05:56 PM
Quote from: "aetherfox"
I wish I knew more C++, I would have offered to help otherwise.

Is your source portable?  Then maybe you could shut those people up who bitched at me and Nek for wanting to write the IDE in VB.


so you finally admit that c/c++ is the better solution? hehe :) oh and i wasn't bitchin you where go read that thread hehe...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on December 05, 2004, 02:25:16 PM
(http://qh2.qbtk.com/11-r)

as you can see, it works for me.  Notice the nice white theme.  Like you jofers, all i did was click on show line numbers once to achieve this.  I dunno... it seems to work for me. (partially.)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: adosorken on December 05, 2004, 03:07:57 PM
Quote from: "marzecTM"
so you finally admit that c/c++ is the better solution? hehe :) oh and i wasn't bitchin you where go read that thread hehe...

Don't start up another retarded idiotic language war, okay? It was dumb enough the first time. In addition, it doesn't look like he said anything about c/c++ being better. Look out, your zealousy is showing.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: SJ Zero on December 05, 2004, 03:27:04 PM
Any language war is now officially moot: QB was the master and pwned everything except that it sucked, now that freebasic is here, we get the pwnage of QB with the asskickosity of C interfaces.

(can you tell I'm utterly hooked on this compiler?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 05, 2004, 04:43:30 PM
<div id="what i should say">
Uh, thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
</div>

<div id="what i want to say">
GAH.
</div>

<div id="what i will say">
Van Godric, cool on the line syntax.  I respect your decision to use blue.  However, it's standard practice to package the program set on a plain theme, and include your preferred theme with it.  Most to all professional quality software does this, it's to broaden initial appeal.

CLS and PRINT are part of QBs language.  However, they are an extension to the language, a standard library.  Printf and atoi isn't highlight in C++ IDEs, nor is "System" highlighted in Java IDEs.  Code block keywords (if/do/for), data types and definitional keywords such as "function" or "type" are what is considered to be language, its syntax.

Please understand, I like your compiler, but I'm not going to talk about how it's already fine, I'm telling you what would make it better for me, an average user.  Guinea pig if you will.
</div>

EDIT: Sorry about the venting.  Finals are slowly unraveling my cool demeanor to reveal the viscious freudian monster that lives inside my lockbox :(


Title: QBW
Post by: toad on December 05, 2004, 05:13:34 PM
hey, not sure if anyone is interested but i made an IDE for QB a long time ago. i don't mean to take the attention off the current IDE in dev, but maybe the two could fuse or something. i noticed the IDE by VonGodric is coming along nice, but doesn't have module/procedure seperation like the original QB IDE for DOS does. take a look how i did this in my screenshots for QBW :

(http://www.realtorassistant.net/bluecastle/screenshots/qbw_04-07-08.jpg)

here's two more: (to show the color features)

http://www.realtorassistant.net/bluecastle/screenshots/qbw_04-07-08b.jpg

http://www.realtorassistant.net/bluecastle/screenshots/qbw_04-07-08c.jpg

it has options for compiler, linker, etc; IDE functionality (fonts, tab spaces, etc) and a few other things, like Undo. i'll paste a url if someone wants to try it.  8)

mine's writtin in VB and i wouldn't know the first thing about making it portable. i just thought i'd post it.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 05, 2004, 05:14:55 PM
I do miss the function index... I almost remember this program too, it looks familiar.

If it gets put into any idea it's look better as a dialog box with a menu option and a keyboard shortcut, though.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: toad on December 05, 2004, 05:30:20 PM
well Jofers, if you were with me on mIRC, #qbrpg (i think?) with Nex' and i think SJ Zero and some others like a year or more ago, you probably helped me with the design. i think you were. can't remember...  :P


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 05, 2004, 05:45:13 PM
Nah, not much of a chatter.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 05, 2004, 06:04:15 PM
function list is already there -just click tha stupid refresh and then select combobox again, you'll see all functions/subs are listed. The refresh will be gon I promise


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 05, 2004, 06:20:50 PM
hey, awesome man... keep up the good work!


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: relsoft on December 06, 2004, 05:00:40 AM
Von: Font sizes?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Sterling Christensen on December 06, 2004, 05:47:25 AM
Quote from: "relsoft"
Von: Font sizes?

The font size is themeable, but that means you have to edit the theme file you're using to change the font size.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: aetherfox on December 06, 2004, 12:23:46 PM
Why do people insist on posting screenshots of the entire screen?  I don't need to see a million white pixels.  It's horribly annoying to have to scrool horixzontally for every post.

Jofers, you are not the only person under tremendous stress.  It's unacceptable for people to use that as an excuse to bitch.  Thats why I'm not going to comment on my pressures now.

Marzec, maybe you should read before you post.  I never said C/C++ was a better alternative.  I merely said "i wish i could be more helpful."  I still would have prefered this to be in VB.  But thats not the point, this is in C++.  It's out of my control.

VonGodric, good job so far.  I'm waiting for the next release.  A thing though...the current syntax highlighting isn't coloured enough.  Although I edited the theme somewhat, maybe you should do something to the default theme.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on December 06, 2004, 01:10:35 PM
Quote from: "Jofers"
I know bloody well you can change the theme,  I'm not an idiot. I said those exact words, "I know you can change the theme" in my original posts, you assumptuous jerkoffs.  Obviously you schmucks can't tell the difference between constructive criticism and complaining, but that's okay.  I can't seem to tell the difference between your posts and those of a horse's ass.  So go ahead, show me pictures and sarcastically point to them, you ignorant piece of self-righteous crap.

PS.  I know what the freaking bar is for too, rat****er.


Hmm... i think you need anger therapy.

if i was one of those "assumptious jerkoffs", i would like to remind you

Quote from: "I"
Remember, you can make your own themes


I said REMEMBER. Never did i assume that you were too mentally retarded to realise you could change/make your own ;)


Quote from: "Jofers"

EDIT: Sorry about the venting.  Finals are slowly unraveling my cool demeanor to reveal the viscious freudian monster that lives inside my lockbox :(


Uh... yes. quite


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 06, 2004, 01:35:24 PM
Yeah.  But then there's taking it out of context.  I'm pretty sure I don't need anger management, I'm a pretty docile guy.  Never hit another human bein' in anger, though I did once intentionally pull a football away as Charlie Brown tried to punt it.  I don't mind posting that kind of stuff so long as it's presented in stride.  I've done it before, I'll do it again.  Usually I'm okay at putting it in some way, shape or form that suggests I don't really think you copulate with rodents.  But I'd been awake for over 48 hours at the time.  I shouldn't be posting then, but internet breaks are the only kind you get studying in a library for 18 hours a day.  I still only have 4 hours of sleep in me, I'm surprised I'm this lucid and I'll probably find out later that I'm not, and somewhere in this digression I've verbally depicted your mother a prostitute.  If I do, I'm sorry.  Analyzing myself at the time, I thought people wouldn't take it seriously if I put something mean in "what I want to say", something superficially nice in "what I should say" and something reasonable in "what I'm going to say".  I guess that backfired on me, huh :)

I've gotten into a couple dumb Angry Joe streaks in the past couple months, without realizing I'm being Angry Joe.  I looked over a few threads, I've been a right bastard in a few cases.  You ever been on an entirely different level with someone, they thinking something about you that isn't necessarily, you, and they acting like you're missing something about them, throwing off the  entire argument into a pitfall of debauchery and ignorance?  That's been me in every thread this past month.  Well, as a goodwill gesture, I'm on the same agreement as you that was pretty well jackassery, but in my defense it was unintentional jackassery bought about by the devil university that gave me three finals on the same day, and says that If I don't get a 95 in one final, I fail the course, and have to rearrange my entire schedule from scraps beacuse they "don't award permits for failing" as a policy.  Perhaps it's been inspired jackassery.  I don't know.

My first final was today at 8am.  I have another final at noon and another at 3pm.  My last one is Wednesday at 3pm.  This entire crappy semester will be one I'll be glad to forget.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: aetherfox on December 06, 2004, 02:20:39 PM
Everybody has the right to bitch.  I never denied you that.  Every once in a while, I'll bitch.  But don't use pressures and workloads as an excuse.

Good luck on your exams.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on December 06, 2004, 03:13:07 PM
sorry


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 06, 2004, 04:06:50 PM
hey guys, please STOP.
this isn't leading nowhere.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on December 06, 2004, 04:23:04 PM
Hehe Jofers, dont worry, everyone has to let off a bit of steam now and then. I didnt really take it that seriously.

Good luck with your exams man.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on December 06, 2004, 06:14:15 PM
To anyone who read that last post of mine, i'm SO sorry!  I didn't mean it like that!  Musta been on crack when i wrote that... Just know ppl that I did NOT mean what i wrote!  I had something different in mind when i wrote it...  I didn't mean what i wrote!!!  

I apologize!  (just shows what happens when you don't use proper grammar!!!)    Sorry Jofers, didn't mean what that post said!  :(   What i meant was that I wished you the best of luck, NOT that the name i put in was what i was calling jofers... :(  

SORRY!!  I'll go stand in a corner now...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on December 06, 2004, 06:21:38 PM
I understood you, Barok.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 06, 2004, 08:13:49 PM
Hello,

Just in case someone is doing a themefile for fbide, the don't. Becouse new fbide version theme files are not compotable with older ones anymore. I'll post here the structure of new ones too.

Code:
;colorsyntax file for FBIDE
[default]
background=white
foreground=black
caret=black
fontsize=12
font=
fontstyle=0

[linenumber]
background=grey
foreground=white

[select]
background=steel blue
foreground=white

[error]
background=yellow
foreground=red
style=4

[comment]
foreground=grey
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=italic
capital=0

[number]
foreground=blue
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=0
capital=0

[keyword]
foreground=black
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=bold
capital=0

[string]
foreground=red
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=0
capital=0

[operator]
foreground=black
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=0
capital=0

[identifier]
foreground=black
background=white
font=
fontsize=12
fontstyle=0
capital=0
As you see it has more options to design working enviroment. And also removed from here editor flags(like indentguide true/false) and move them into main fbide.ini. I think it's how it's supposed to be. Also some updates: unspecified size/colour is considered to be default.

New version should be up in the end of this week, if not sooner.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 06, 2004, 08:19:52 PM
Quote from: "Jofers"
CLS and PRINT are part of QBs language.  However, they are an extension to the language, a standard library.  Printf and atoi isn't highlight in C++ IDEs, nor is "System" highlighted in Java IDEs.  Code block keywords (if/do/for), data types and definitional keywords such as "function" or "type" are what is considered to be language, its syntax.


If you so like, in new version keywords are loaded from a file, so no longer hardcoded. you can scrap out or add anything you like :wink:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 06, 2004, 08:27:07 PM
*shrug*  That's cool.

Barok: *shrug*  That's cool.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: adosorken on December 07, 2004, 08:10:39 AM
VonGodric: Perhaps you should finish its functionality before worrying about theming or other asthetic stuff. I don't know about anyone else here, but I'd rather have a plain looking application which works as expected than a pretty application that's half-broken. :D


Title: Exe version info
Post by: Badjas on December 07, 2004, 07:10:01 PM
In the exe version info, the description is:

'developed using the dev-c++ ide' or something like that. Possible to change that to like.. 'FreeBASIC IDE'? It gets displayed in the 'open program with...' dialog in windows (xp). So that looks really awkward then with the current text

Greetings,
Badjas


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: aetherfox on December 08, 2004, 08:05:35 AM
You set that in the Dev-C++ project options, when compiling.

I agree with Nek.  I don't think you should waste time on aesthetics, concentrate on functionality.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 08, 2004, 12:32:13 PM
Hello,

The new version will be a loads better, I promise. It has already a qb-like sub-function selection dialog along other things. Should be up somewhere by the end of the week.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on December 09, 2004, 12:41:49 AM
my 2c on subs/functions:

1. Currently i like having the file as one long text document.  It means you can just scroll down if you want to work on the next sub, or whatnot.  

2. I really like the drop menu for selecting subs.  Much more efficient than qb's popup menu for selecting subs.  

3. Maybe have in a small menu on the side the sub/function names, and when you click on them you go right to that sub/function?

Just my thoughts.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 09, 2004, 12:58:43 AM
1 - nothing stops you from having one big file.

2 - dropdown doesn't go anywhere -it though will no longer need refreshing each time you use it (hopefullt)

3 - clicking on sub/function in a sub/function menu doesn't do anything by itself. dblclick does. you can also just jump to the position without closing dialog -so like kinda browsing through your subs if you so wish. also a button for selecting entire sub/function for coping or deleteing. whatever.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 10, 2004, 08:49:53 PM
Hello, now finally new version is ready, it still needs a loads of work, but I think it's getting better -or os it just me and my ego?

anyway here's the link: http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIde.exe
NOTE: please read readme's becouse they exmplain how to set up editor. Also if you extract it to c:\fbide and your fbc path is in c:\freebasic then all settings are in place  

Also I put the source code with it. All kind of constructive criticism and suggestions are welcome. You may use however the source as you see fit. Though credit is in order where credit is due.

0.0.0.1278 - 0.1
Fixed / changed
* indentation problems
* removed pulldown sub/function menu
* removed (for now) syntax checking
* config files cchanged
* Editor "remembers" previous settings
* view menu problem is fixed
* many other bugs
* syntax keyword list is no longer built in into editor, but is loaded from a file.

New features
* toolbar buttons
* helping text in the statusbar
* advanced autoindent that indents languagestructures
* Sub/function browser
* possibility to set compile command prototype


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Marcade on December 10, 2004, 08:59:11 PM
I installed it and I ran it and immediately got this:

specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't open file 'c:\fbide\std.fbt' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified.)
00:57:26: can't op

..

..

.. I have to edit the paths in the .INI files by myself for crying out loud ?!?!  :o

Can't the path's simply be left out?!?! :o


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 10, 2004, 09:17:07 PM
tnx, 0.1a is now up. if no path's is set then is assumed that they are in the same dir as fbide.exe. The link is here: http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIde.exe


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Jofers on December 10, 2004, 09:44:06 PM
Lookin' sharp.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on December 11, 2004, 09:07:29 AM
Very good.

one thing, though, it doesnt show the first level of indentation when indentation guides are on.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: aetherfox on December 11, 2004, 04:07:19 PM
Nicely done.

CMD Prompt not CMD Promt.

The 5 minutes I spent on it were good.  NIce inclusion of F2, thats really helpful.  I was finding myself pressing that over and over before.  I also particularly like the new look.  It's sublty different but good.

You aren't far now.  Stay sharp.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on December 11, 2004, 04:43:49 PM
Nice!  You definately put alot of work in!  It's too bad you never fixed the debug arrows before you released the new release, but that's okay.  Anyways, i got a bug to report.  Do this...

1. open a program.
2. compile and run it.
3. open a new program.  
4. Run it, or compile it and run it.  You'll see that it runs the program you loaded first.  Just something i noticed.

Also, just a few things...

1. i'd like to see a button to press to see the sub menu.
2. Maybe have the sub dropdown menu right beside the other icons... It looks like there's lots of room for it.  (I don't know about anyone else, but i liked that dropdown menu... very quick for accessing subs IMO.)
3. Maybe have buttons for compiling, compiling and running, and running?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 11, 2004, 05:13:47 PM
I thought I'd update the list of quickkeys possible in the ide:
all old ones:
compile -> ctrl+f9
compile&run -> f9
run -> shift+ctrl+f9
dos promt -> f8

new -> ctrl+n
save -> ctrl+s
save as -> ctrl+shift+s
Open -> Ctrl + o

undo -> ctrl +Z
redo -> ctrl + shift + z
cut -> ctrl + x
copy -> ctrl+ c
paste -> ctrl+ v

select all -> ctrl +a
select line -> ctrl + l

indent increase -> tab
indent decrease -> shift + tab

f2 -> opens a sub/function browser
ctrl+shift+u  ->  makes selection uppercase
ctrl+u  ->  makes selection lowercase
ctrl+shift+l  ->  will delete  the line that follows selection
ctrl+l (without shift) -> will select the line, pressing l again will move selection one line below


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Sterling Christensen on December 16, 2004, 06:50:55 PM
If I have something else open besides the IDE, when I hit F9 the program compiles and runs, then after the program closes... focus is returned not to the IDE, but to some other window. Any other window (doesn't matter what app).

It doesn't seem to matter what's minimized or not, or what order the apps are in on the task bar.

Windows XP Pro SP2, FreeBASIC 0.08b, FBIde 0.1a

EDIT: Also, two requests: Make Escape exit the F2 window, and make programs run from the directory they're in instead of the directory fbc.exe is in.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on December 17, 2004, 12:54:32 AM
I noticed that thing that Barok was talking about too. If you modify your program, it still runs the old version... Is there any way you can fix that, please? ;)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Sterling Christensen on December 17, 2004, 03:02:48 AM
Quote from: "Dr_Davenstein"
I noticed that thing that Barok was talking about too. If you modify your program, it still runs the old version...

Yeah, if you hit F9 for "Compile & Run" it will work fine, it's only when you select Run (Shift+Ctrl+F9) that it seems to execute the compiled exe that's already there, even if it's old.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 17, 2004, 03:20:14 AM
Quote from: "Dr_Davenstein"
I noticed that thing that Barok was talking about too. If you modify your program, it still runs the old version... Is there any way you can fix that, please? ;)


Fixed -it was coused by that that string containing program name wasn't emptied.

Quote from: "Sterling Christensen"
If I have something else open besides the IDE, when I hit F9 the program compiles and runs, then after the program closes... focus is returned not to the IDE, but to some other window. Any other window (doesn't matter what app).

It doesn't seem to matter what's minimized or not, or what order the apps are in on the task bar.

Windows XP Pro SP2, FreeBASIC 0.08b, FBIde 0.1a

EDIT: Also, two requests: Make Escape exit the F2 window, and make programs run from the directory they're in instead of the directory fbc.exe is in.
It's more or less fixed. Don't know why it does that, though.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on December 18, 2004, 02:24:36 AM
Hmm... i downloaded the newest version and it's still doing that. :???:

It seems like it worked until the third time I hit {F9}... or maybe I did something else before I tried to recompile. I'll try again, but it's definetly still doing that.  :cry:

PS. Not to be overly picky, but are you still going to add a search/replace function?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 18, 2004, 04:59:18 AM
I haven't uploaded new version yet, lot of stuff needs to be done before.

Yes of course, search is added already :wink: and replace is work in progress (=read "too lazy to add right now")

But if anyone is interested in the progress then: http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/FBIdedev.rar is unofficial wip version. I update it almost every day.

NB! But it may not work, may contain serious bugs, or couse who knows what to your data, you'v been warned :evil:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Ryan on December 26, 2004, 10:29:59 PM
garr.. just figured out I was using an older version than the latest release.  The line numbers on the side are a HUGE help when checking out the compile log.  Anyways, I was wondering if it would be possible to have the IDE show you the compile log on a failed compile.

(... and I was going to recommend a line number indicator ...   :oops: )

EDIT: Now that I've played with the new IDE a little more, it would be nice to have a column indicator as well as the ability to set compiler arguments.  (Unless that's already there and I missed it.)  As an added bonus, a readily accessible chart of ASC codes would be cool, too, and I wouldn't mind putting that in text form for ya if you want.  Sorry if these suggestions have already come in or are planned.. didn't read the whole thread.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 30, 2004, 11:24:46 AM
Hello,

After long time I'm ready with another release. It's not mutch better then previous, so Don't expect mutch, just some bugfixes, and few new features.
You can dl it here: www.hot.ee/wizgui/setup.exe
0.1 - 0.2
Fixed / Changed
* Some indentation problems.
* Some other bugs as well.
* All Ide files moved to Ide\ to keep things cleaner.

New features
* Compile/run/compile and run buttons on toolbar
* costomizible compiler paramater list
* parameter passing to your program
* stolen (only temprarily) icons from Dev-Cpp
* installer (crappy one)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Ryan on December 30, 2004, 01:17:34 PM
Nice new look and compile options.  :D  Do you mind if I link to your download from a web page or would you prefer I link to this thread?

Thanks for the update.  The new buttons and sub window changes are studly.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on December 30, 2004, 03:35:06 PM
Hey, very nice!  Just one thing i'd like to see, and that's a button on the nav bar so the sub menu can be brought up quickly.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: DrV on December 30, 2004, 04:26:17 PM
Couple o' suggestions:

- make CMD Promt run cmd.exe on NT-based OSes
- rename CMD Promt to CMD Prompt as suggested above

very nice otherwise


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Z!re on December 30, 2004, 04:28:46 PM
Why rename it to CMD Prompt?.. CMD is short for Command... no need to be all MSish (read lazy) :P hehe


I havent tested the latest version yet, but some people (n00bs) are complaining about it not working/they can't get it working...

So, trying to make the install more automated/easier?


(Repeat: Havent tested it, so i dunno, just forwarding...)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: DrV on December 30, 2004, 05:04:40 PM
no, no... fix the misspelling of "prompt" (promt)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Ryan on December 31, 2004, 02:09:48 AM
Aye on the prompt thing.

And I was wondering.. did you intentionally change the tab stop?  If so, could you maybe make it optional, cause I've been developing the game with your 4 space tab stop and now it only wants to give me 3.  ^_^


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on December 31, 2004, 09:50:58 AM
open then IDE\fbtemp.ini there you can change tab size.
i'm working on a config dialog for the next release.

Interestin -is anyone willing to try and port the bitch to the linux? As ´far as I know, it shouldn't be too mutch work, since it uses wxWindows widget library. But I myself don't know anything about linux programming.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Ryan on December 31, 2004, 03:53:44 PM
Got it, thanks.  btw, I love the qb theme.  ^_^


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: DrV on December 31, 2004, 09:54:08 PM
here's some code I whipped up to decide what command prompt to use:

Code:
#ifdef WIN32
# include <windows.h>
#endif

#include <stdio.h>

int main()
{
    char *com_spec;
    char cmd_prompt_exe[260];
   
    com_spec = getenv("ComSpec");

#ifdef WIN32
    if (com_spec)
         strncpy(cmd_prompt_exe, com_spec, sizeof(cmd_prompt_exe));
    else {

         OSVERSIONINFO os;
         os.dwOSVersionInfoSize = sizeof(os);
         GetVersionEx(&os);
         
         if (os.dwPlatformId == VER_PLATFORM_WIN32_NT) /* winNT/2K/XP */
            strncpy(cmd_prompt_exe, "cmd.exe", sizeof(cmd_prompt_exe));
         else /* win9x/Me */
            strncpy(cmd_prompt_exe, "command.com", sizeof(cmd_prompt_exe));
    }
#else
     !!!WRITEME!!!
#endif
   
    printf("command prompt exe = \"%s\"\n", com_spec);
   
    system("pause");
    return 0;
}


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Sterling Christensen on January 04, 2005, 02:41:27 PM
Feature request:
F5 - saves the program to a temporary file, compiles, and runs it

Perfect for running code copied from a forum - as simple as Ctrl+C, Alt_Tab, Ctrl+V, F5. It would save you the trouble of saving it to a file, and leaves no mess: no bas/exe files(s) to delete afterward.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 04, 2005, 02:46:42 PM
Quote from: "Sterling Christensen"
Feature request:
F5 - saves the program to a temporary file, compiles, and runs it
Perfect for running code copied from a forum post that you don't want to keep, just test. It would save you the trouble of saving it to a file, and leaves no mess: no bas/exe files(s) to delete afterward.


Good idea -will be in the next version


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Sterling Christensen on January 04, 2005, 02:50:50 PM
Quote from: "VonGodric"
Good idea -will be in the next version

Yay!

BTW, it's funny how the post looks perfect when I preview, but then after it's posted I can't stop editing it. This is the third time recently that somebody has replied before I was finished revising it. lol


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: SJ0 on January 07, 2005, 12:49:45 PM
There is definitely a bug somewhere. When I try to run fbide off my microdrive, I can't compile anything, even though I installed fbide directly into the freebasic directory on that drive.

(Also, please change it so it doesn't bring you back to line 1 when there's an unknown error or an error without a line! It's a pain when I'm trying to get something to compile! :) )

I'd try to fix these myself, but I don't have a C/C++ compiler on my computer, with good reason (FB is like 2MB. VC++ is like half a gig. You do the math)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 07, 2005, 05:18:38 PM
I'v done little researching. Strange stuff: If path is too long then argv[] doesn't return whole path -why so? Also it seems FBC still have problems if the path passed to it has spaces in it. Like: "c:\my documents\..."

For more compile error, I maybe wrong, But ide calls FBC through api now, and not through shell command. And it seems that sometimes I get errors from stdin, and sometimes through stderror. I don't know yet how compilers really return errors, but I'll make some little research.

Tnx


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: retsyo on January 09, 2005, 11:55:05 AM
It is pretty, my feature requests :)
1. "last files" in File manu
2. Option to let user choose fbc, *.fbt in FBIde.exe itself, then correct ini file is created. We do not need to edit ini file by hand.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 09, 2005, 06:56:32 PM
View->Syntax colors-> select theme file, no editing is needed :wink:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: dumbledore on January 10, 2005, 03:18:27 AM
here's something i'd like:

when you right-click it and see the file version, have it display the right file version.  or at least have an about box or something so a user can see what version they're using and whether or not they need to update.  (version 0.2 says it's 0.1 under right-click properties)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 10, 2005, 03:44:23 AM
really? tnx fixed.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on January 10, 2005, 04:21:20 AM
i have no problems running the ide or the compiler.  What kind of drive do you have?  I myself have a jumpdrive.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: dumbledore on January 11, 2005, 11:14:58 PM
uh... i'm still getting 0.1 (and 0.0.0.0 in the other "real" file version thingy)http://theunknownqbprogrammer.bravehost.com/fbide.JPG
there any way to fix this?

edit: seems bravehost doesn't like me.... turn off referer logging in firefox or just copy and paste the url... if you really need to see it....

edit #2:  heheh... whoops... right... try http://theunknownqbprogrammer.bravehost.com/fbide.html... no ads, i promise


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 12, 2005, 03:32:29 AM
hehe, sry, forgot to change that when posted 0.2, 0.2 is with the installer, 0.1 didn't have installer


Title: re
Post by: ch on January 14, 2005, 01:12:45 PM
First of all, hello everybody.

This ide is a good beguining, but I think for who is going first time in the programming world, like me a many people, a good help in the ide will be something like the "scriptwriter command mode for Autoit". This tool is an editor to make autoit scripts, it is a script languaje to send keys and mouse to any app in windows, well, the thing I like very much and help me a lot when I star using that script is that in "Scriptwriter" there was a colum in one side of the editor with all the commands of the langunaje. So, for example, in freebasic, a programing beguiner want to use the command "for", he search it in the colum and clik over it, then a new windo appers where the options for comand are, the variable, the sentence...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 14, 2005, 05:46:50 PM
adding support for help isn't hard ~10-15 lines of code MAX, but doing documentation is not that simple. -it's a lot of work.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 15, 2005, 06:58:52 AM
FBIde 0.3 released -see the first post for more info or download it here: http://www.hot.ee/wizgui/setup.exe


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on January 15, 2005, 09:39:17 AM
Wow  :D  Fancy!!!

I love it!


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Sterling Christensen on January 15, 2005, 09:41:52 AM
Bug:
1. Start up the IDE without loading any program
2. Type something (don't leave it blank)
3. Quit the program, ie press Alt+F4, select File->Quit, whatever
4. At the "Save changes to ?" prompt, click No...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on January 15, 2005, 09:46:05 AM
Haha! You are kidding me! I cant exit without saving!


Gha! Go away nasty window!



...









.





.




GO AWAY!!!


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: toad on January 15, 2005, 09:20:55 PM
i mean, this is no big issue right now compared to other issues regarding the IDE, but accessing procedures is done really frequently when programming. to have to press F2, select one, press Goto, and then press Exit just to get there... it's too much work. on QBW (unreleased QB IDE for windows i made) the procedures are all listed to the right of the code. all you must do is double-click one and it brings it up. to me it makes a huge difference. others have said it takes up too much space, but i don't agree. especially if you maximize the window. subs and functions are what make up 90% of a project. it's great to have them all listed there at your right hand.

8) picture - http://www.realtorassistant.net/bluecastle/screenshots/qbw_04-07-08.jpg

i do want to say, though, that i *love* the way you handled indenting, and the way you have an option to see the indent lines. great job with the syntax coloring (i couldn't get mine to work too well). you've really got all the kick-butt features i couldn't get working in mine.  :P


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 16, 2005, 02:26:25 AM
pressing GOTO is just -browsing, doubleclick on the sub/function name will take you there and close the window. :wink:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: toad on January 16, 2005, 02:47:45 AM
ohh, well that aint so bad i guess. . .


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 16, 2005, 03:12:41 AM
Hi again, quick releaseof (0.3.1):
Fixed:
* exiting problem.
* Compiler options no longer opens about dialog.
* single click after another in the sub/function dialog will go to desired place without closing the window.

Get it here: www.hot.ee/wizgui/setup.exe


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: mipooh on January 16, 2005, 06:15:58 AM
Cool man, thanx,

unfortunally noone seems to port it to linux. Or do you know something else?

Mipooh


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 16, 2005, 06:36:16 AM
nope:(

I myself don't know about anything of linux coding -never tryed.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Badjas on January 16, 2005, 07:06:34 AM
For jumping to procedures, most important UI design issue to me is that I would not have to use the mouse. And no unnecesary tab presses. Also concider why someone would want a list of procedures without needing to look one up?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: toad on January 16, 2005, 09:50:37 AM
yeah, no mouse-work is better. Von! version .3.2! just kidding, but keep it in mind. Enter on the sub selected should bring it up. he's perhaps got a to-do list he could write stuff on.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 16, 2005, 10:01:34 AM
:P

TODO list:
   * Get F5 (quick run) to work (90% finished -needs debugging)
   * Config dialog (30%)
   * File history (0%)
   * SUB/Function browser -esc exit and selecting with enter.
   * Help for the ide (since it seems is needed)
   * Linux port (anyone?)
   * Support for external help file links (chm?)
   * Language files (for local costomision)
   * Block of Code commenting in/out (almost done)
   * And about 100 things more...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: na_th_an on January 16, 2005, 10:08:00 AM
In the QB IDE, SHIFT + F2 changed to the next SUB in the SUB list from within the code window. I use that a lot. Maybe you can add that feature.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: adosorken on January 16, 2005, 10:58:27 AM
If C++/wxWidgets was so cross-platform, shouldn't you be able to take the same exact code and compile it in Linux without making a single change? :roll: If so, then there's nothing to learn about...it should work fine as-is in Linux with a simple compile. If not, then all the hoopla about cross-platform is just as much bunk as I've always said it was. :D


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 16, 2005, 11:16:51 AM
there are some stuff needs changing, like \ to / in the adresses, then fbc.exe to ./fbc (or whatever) sutch small things. The bigger thing however is getting wxWidget instaled on linux(I hate dependencies)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: retsyo on January 16, 2005, 12:01:02 PM
How about implete FBIde or something like in http://wxbasic.sf.net? It is a intepreter for BASIC that supports wxWidget in Windows/Linux, but has the possiblity to bind the source file to a binary one.
Then fbc itself and IDE are all of BASIC, it is interesting. :)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 16, 2005, 12:11:42 PM
No thank you. You can howecer do your version with this wxBasic.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Sterling Christensen on January 16, 2005, 05:31:23 PM
Quote from: "VonGodric"
  * Linux port (anyone?)

Using wxWidgets was a good move - more portable. Maybe you should put the source code up for download somewhere. Then whoever has the time/knowledge/interest can take a look.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 17, 2005, 01:01:45 AM
it's included in the installer :wink: In the IDE\src\ along with all files necassery (you need to have wxWidget's)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: MystikShadows on January 21, 2005, 11:25:59 PM
wxWidgets yes...not a bad move :-)...could be better though. ;-).  but wxBasic itself is pointeless at least as long as it doesn't compile to an executable...which it doesn't right now.  or atleast not til fairly recently.  I'm using codesense (a derivative of codemax which also has intellisense features like MS studio (code completion, list selection, function prototyping ( if you type right$(  on the open parenthesis a list of parameters and their types will apear) etc etc...pretty good control.

Yes I started my own IDE too, not to compete, but reading what was planned here, and in Vondric's (I think it's the name :-) feature list didn't quite meet features I wanted to do :-)....so I'm doing it myself....i'm getting screenshots ready to give you guys a sample of what I have so far.  you might like it ;-)....probably later tonight, or tomorrow, I'll be posting some.....I got alot done already because this started as an IDE for PDS / VB-DOS under windows (because I was tired of reaching limits in the DOS ide that the Compiler itself didn't have.  so I'm doing a FB specific version of that.   With features I like as a QB coder and features some might not have thought about ;-).


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: dumbledore on January 23, 2005, 05:49:28 AM
getting some bugs in paste scrolling the code horizontally but not updating the scrollbar position...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 28, 2005, 10:32:45 PM
Hello,

Lately I'v been working on the new feature for the ide -syntax highlighter-converter into html or bb code. It's easy this way to use outcome in tutorials or post on forums, or whereever else colored dyntax is needed, here's small example:

Quote
'Small example[/color]
'FBIde produces BB code and html[/color]
'and colors syntax for easy posting on forums or for[/color]
'tutorials[/color]

'preprocessor[/color]
#define smth 100

'code and number coloring[/color]
for i = 1 to 100
   print i
next i

'strings[/color]
Print "cool uh?" + "you don't think so?"

'will be aviable in the next release[/color]

The BB code above was generated by FBIde bb-code generator -honestly!

And here's html file generated: http://www.hot.ee/freebasic/test.html


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: relsoft on January 29, 2005, 07:41:40 AM
Great job!!!


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 29, 2005, 05:15:15 PM
Hello again, time for new release

"Homepage" : htthttp://www.hot.ee/fbide/
win32 installer version : http://madedog.pri.ee/bin/FBIde033.exe
winr2 rar'ed version : http://madedog.pri.ee/bin/FBIde033.rar
src : http://madedog.pri.ee/bin/src033.rar

Changelog:
0.3.1 - 0.3.3 ( 0.3.2 was never released to public )
Fixed / Changed
* Sometimes window scrollbars get screwed when pasting
* Now a lot better error-reporting
* Some syntax indenting problems
* added new keywords to syntaxfile
* some other bugfixes

New features
* Margin folding
* syntax converting to BB or html code
* QuickRun (without save -uses temp file)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: marinedalek on January 29, 2005, 05:47:40 PM
I can safely say that's one of the slowest servers I've ever tried to download from. Where's it hosted on, a PIC?  it's currently averaging at 0.2kb/s. I'm pretty sure it's not a problem my end because I can browse the web the same speed as usual.

EDIT 1: Hmm.. it seemed to have a burst of speed back up to normal. Weird.

EDIT 2: Nope, I take it back. It only downloaded 15k of the file. That's a really slow server.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Z!re on January 29, 2005, 07:01:11 PM
It's so slow I get timeout errors...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: marinedalek on January 29, 2005, 07:05:00 PM
If you email me I can put the setup file on my hosting account.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 29, 2005, 07:10:00 PM
My usual host is down for some reason -doesn't log into ftp. marinedalek: it would be cool


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 29, 2005, 07:57:31 PM
uploaded to new location -thank you marinedalek

win32 installer version : http://marinedalek.no-ip.com/FBIde033.exe
winr2 rar'ed version : http://marinedalek.no-ip.com/FBIde033.rar
src : http://marinedalek.no-ip.com/src033.rar


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Sterling Christensen on January 30, 2005, 01:19:06 AM
Quote from: "VonGodric"
New features
* Margin folding
* syntax converting to BB or html code
* QuickRun (without save -uses temp file)

Yay! What's margin folding?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on January 30, 2005, 02:34:35 AM
On the new version, I keep getting an error:

Quote from: "FB IDE"
Exit code 0


Then it crashes. Am I missing something.

EDIT:
It doesn't do that if I turn show exit code off.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 30, 2005, 06:11:03 AM
Crash? strange works here fine...

and it shows the number you specify in "END number" -that's what exitcode is.

why does it craxh :???:  please be more specific


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: mipooh on January 30, 2005, 06:11:10 AM
Hmmm, here FBIDE crashes after every example I run. The example runs, it crashes after I say ok to the message box.
I have the path c:/ProgramFiles/freebasic
The version 3.1 did not crash, had been in the same path...
Mipooh


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 30, 2005, 06:27:29 AM
Hmmm strange :???:
I looked it over here and I can't reproduce that crashing. Is it only with quickrun? or running in general?

I haven't changed that part of code since 0.3.1

what win are you using?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on January 30, 2005, 06:33:37 AM
Maybe I didn't specify a number in End Number? Like I said, after I turned off the show exit code option it works fine. ;)

I have a minor suggestion. What if the IDE automatically deletes the temp file after you use quickrun? I sometimes test .bas files while storing them on the desktop, and it causes clutter if the temp file is still there. ;)



EDIT: I'm running Win ME. Also, it crashes no matter which *run* you use.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 30, 2005, 06:36:17 AM
That's annoys me too -I thought someone would be interested in asm-output or smth, but well then I realised that he can just do a real compile and see what's wrong... yes i'll remove that.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 30, 2005, 06:42:30 AM
:???: I really don't know what may cousing this :(
I'm using xp myself, but it works really fine here.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on January 30, 2005, 06:44:30 AM
Is there a way to define an end number? I'm not sure if I really understand what this option does. :???:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 30, 2005, 06:47:46 AM
turn show exit code on, then write in:
Code:

   dim a as integer
   input "Please enter the exitcode to show: ";a
   end a


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on January 30, 2005, 06:50:58 AM
Hmmm... It works with show exit code on, if I specify END 0.

If I just use END, it crashes.

It crashes with everything except END n, while integer n = 0. ;)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 30, 2005, 06:52:48 AM
Quote from: "Dr_Davenstein"
Hmmm... It works with show exit code on, if I specify END 0.

If I just use END, it crashes.
what you mean by this?
Okay I think I may have tracjed down the possible bug -could I send it to you somehow for testing?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on January 30, 2005, 06:56:34 AM
It's weird...

This works fine...

Code:
END




This crashes...

Code:
Screen 13

END



But, this works fine....


Code:
Screen 13


END 0


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on January 30, 2005, 06:57:39 AM
Quote from: "VonGodric"

Okay I think I may have tracjed down the possible bug -could I send it to you somehow for testing?



By all means. ;)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 30, 2005, 06:59:19 AM
but does it crash the moment you select run, or?

and btw, only one program can be run at a time (had to disable it, becouse it would crash anyway)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on January 30, 2005, 07:01:01 AM
No, it runs the program fine. When the program ends, the exit code window pops up, and then I close it... then it crashes.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 30, 2005, 07:10:40 AM
please try this and tell me, do you still get the error: www.hot.ee/freebasic/FBide.rar -just overwrite the fbide.exe


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on January 30, 2005, 07:29:05 AM
As far as I can tell, you fixed it!  :P


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 30, 2005, 07:34:09 AM
:) good -strange it disn't produce errors last time :???:  -couse I haven't touched this in ages...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: mipooh on January 30, 2005, 10:12:08 AM
For me it is fixed too..
Thx
Mipooh


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on January 30, 2005, 10:42:16 AM
In the next version:
in the IDE\ will be a folder Docs\
where you will be able to add any files (.chm, .txt, .html, etc...) that you wish to appear in the help menu. It's easy this way -I think. filename with: Default_xxx.xxx (where xxx.xxx is any name/extension) will be opened by default when you press F1

Will that solution be okay?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on January 30, 2005, 04:07:57 PM
That sounds good. What would really be cool is if you could add support for everything... Say you had a program that uses OpenGL. The beginning of the program would have '$INCLUDE:' gl/gl.bi'. If the compiler could automatically link the appropriate help file, that would be awesome.  You could just use the .bi file to display the way the syntax should be structured. :wink:


For instance, if the user is writing a program...


Code:
glNormal3f


If the user hits f1 while on this keyword, it could display the entry from the header file...

Quote from: "GL.BI"
DECLARE SUB      glNormal3f ALIAS "glNormal3f" ( BYVAL nx AS GLfloat, BYVAL ny AS GLfloat, BYVAL nz AS GLfloat )


Just like QB.  :P


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: dumbledore on January 31, 2005, 09:46:56 PM
i'm having a bug in the html formatting; when i convert
Code:
cls
print "hello"
end

i get
Code:
<pre><b>cls</b>
<b>print </b><font color="red">hello"</font>

</pre>

which, besides adding an extra line at the end, removes the first qutoe from the print statement, making the output display roughly:

cls
print hello"
end

edit:  forgot about phpbb's auto-tag closing feature...   :x


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: dumbledore on January 31, 2005, 10:14:30 PM
ok, done a bit more experimenting, and found another "bug":
when you convert to bbcode, it will cut off the last command if you don't have a new line as the last char in the file. :???:

this doesn't fix the html problem though...


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on February 01, 2005, 02:22:44 AM
tnx, Both problems fixed


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: toad on February 04, 2005, 01:55:15 PM
lol, you forgot to make Esc exit the sub window.


Title: BUGS!!
Post by: BigPapaN0z on February 13, 2005, 06:25:24 PM
Hey Von, just wanted to let you in on an undocumented feature (ie - bug) I found.  With the auto-indent, if you create a select case, and then start adding the cases, it starts to autoindent fine, then after you hit enter, it reverts back a tab.  I'm guessing it has to do with the colon at the end thinking that it is an anchor.  Just thought I would let ya in on my little secret.  :)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Spotted Cheetah on February 25, 2005, 09:56:06 PM
Can it be solved somehow to make the IDE running on Windows 95?? It was strange for me that it did not start as i could not find any developments software yet what failed on it.

(I can not update since i have just a P233 and i do not like WinXP. And i do not want since my copy of W95 is legal)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on April 04, 2005, 10:06:35 PM
It's been a while since last update -and it will take a while till next too, but I thought that I'd show what I have so far (showoff :lol: ). Here's some screenies of wip of FBIde 0.4
(http://www.hot.ee/fbide/pics/1.JPG)
Notice tabbed enviroment 8)
(http://www.hot.ee/fbide/pics/2.JPG)
Just a load dialog
(http://www.hot.ee/fbide/pics/3.JPG)
Different coloring...
(http://www.hot.ee/fbide/pics/4.JPG)
Settings dialog -no more messing in config files...

Some more info:
Tabbed enviroment -Tnx Marzec!
Full rewrite and total cleanup of the code. Very little is from original.
Will have simple project manegment.
Everything is configurable from within IDE -no need for messing in settings files...
And lot more.

So don't think it's a dead project :wink:


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: barok on April 04, 2005, 11:13:52 PM
Alright!  Tabs!  Just like mozilla! :D  Thank you mr. pussy in boots!


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: fielden on April 04, 2005, 11:40:31 PM
It's going to be a nice one, I like it already.

Did you ever get a report about the Compile & Run cube on the tool bar.

In case you didn't I'll  report it again. I don't want to read through those messages to see if somebody reported it.

If you have 1 file loaded, maybe called  Edit Test.bas
and one file in the directory called Edit.
When you click on Compile & Run on the Tool Bar, It compiles Edit Test.bas, but it run Edit  :D   It about drove me crasy till I finally figured it out. I thought , That doesn't look anything like the program I just wrote.

Later.......Jerry Fielden


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: v3cz0r on April 05, 2005, 02:19:20 AM
It looks awesome Von, you know, that's pretty much the FB's face to most people using the compiler and it's getting better on each new release, congrats ;).

I hope adding debug support will be "easy" later using libgdb, we will see, heh..


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: relsoft on April 05, 2005, 04:04:22 AM
Vonnie: Stick with that style. Love the devc++ like interface. Now remember the trees?
 :D


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: xteraco on April 05, 2005, 04:06:39 AM
i have to second rel on that, the devc++ look is awesome.. lol


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Sterling Christensen on April 05, 2005, 08:00:36 AM
Feature request: Middle click a tab to close it, like Firefox? I wish tabbed editors/IDEs did that.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: fsw on April 05, 2005, 11:46:46 AM
@VonGodric:
Good work  8)
...hope you used for each tab (file) a new wxStyledTextWidget.

Most people switch documents back and forth, which is slower and on another particular editor (another language, another editor), if you switch to fast, back and forth, it gets confused - wrong filename to the file you see and so on...

Take care


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: lillo on April 05, 2005, 12:21:52 PM
Hey von, cool work on FBIde 0.4... Keep it up!
Now a small additional feature request: please add ALT-n keyboard shortcuts to switch to the n-th editor tab... Like ALT-1 to switch to first tab.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: thegrogen on April 05, 2005, 03:59:21 PM
How close are you to a release?


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on April 05, 2005, 04:57:46 PM
Tnx guys,

fielden: No I haven't got that, but thanks for reporting.

v3cz0r: I don't know how debuggers work -how they return data to IDE's, but i'm sure it's nothing impossible...

relsoft: Yep dev-cpp has inspired me a lot -best ide in the world (in the sake of saving arguments -for me)

Sterling Christensen: we'll see, I don't promise nothing atm.

fsw: don't worry -I have studied other editors in the sourcecode... it isn't too slow...

lillo: nice idea... we'll see about it

thegrogen: I'm afraid you'll sonner see fb 0.14 then fbide 0.4. But who know's? (I may release some wip verasion of it somehwere -without project support. But I don't promise anything)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on April 07, 2005, 02:32:39 PM
Okay I moved stuff now to sourceforge -so link is now: http://sourceforge.net/projects/fbide/


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: aetherfox on April 11, 2005, 05:56:31 PM
You should move your files over to sourceforge's hosting...the website  I mean.


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: Z!re on April 25, 2005, 07:28:23 PM
We'll add this to the fb downloader if you dont mind/if you want us to..

Catch me on MSN


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on April 26, 2005, 02:11:21 AM
Sure, no problem by me! 8)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: fsw on April 28, 2005, 01:18:28 PM
Hi guys,

have you seen that the toolbar and the styledtext control flickers big time while resizing the window?
Is there a way to change that nasty behaviour, or it's an issue of wx itself?

Suppose it's a wx issue because I have the same problem with the wx-c dll.

Any thoughts?

Thanks


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: VonGodric on May 04, 2005, 05:27:16 AM
Hello,

after a while I post here few new screenshots of FBIde.
(http://qh2.qbtk.com/571-r)
subs/functions can be easily searched by anything that eppearson the sub/function declaration line. even by arguments.

(http://qh2.qbtk.com/569-r)
any error is now nicely in that report area.

(http://qh2.qbtk.com/570-r)
it also catches any output compiler gives during compile.

btw I'v planned the release of FBIde 0.4 around 15th of this month. maybe +/- few days


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: KiZ on May 04, 2005, 12:51:05 PM
Looks great!

Will there be an auto declare generator?

*hint hint* ;)


Title: FBIde 0.3.1 -> 0.3.3
Post by: dumbledore on May 07, 2005, 02:34:32 AM
@fsw:
next fbide (0.4) has virtually no flickering.  :lol: so wait a week and you'll be in heaven :P