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Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Zack on June 10, 2004, 01:04:14 PM
This is my first drawing of a head in profile where I didn't use a model or photograph or anything like that for guidance. I scanned it from my pencil drawing in my trusty blank-sheet drawing notebook. It's the head of a man, mustache-d and bearded, with curly hair.
I personally thing the largest problems are with the nostril (it's to dark, and large), and the muscle lines I put in the neck and face. Also the tip of the nose is too messy - I just couldn't find an eraser :P . Of course I'm still very amateur, so I didn't expect more.
Anyway, if you could point anything out, I'd be grateful:
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Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Plasma on June 10, 2004, 01:33:14 PM
We been spending most our lives
Living in an Amish paradise...


I'm no artist, but I think his head needs to be wider...


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Zack on June 10, 2004, 01:38:18 PM
You agree with Z!re, then.

I need a frickin' eraser.....


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Jofers on June 10, 2004, 03:44:12 PM
(http://www.betterwebber.com/test2/profile.jpg)

People are all about proportions.  The eyes are about halfway down the face, the base of the nose is about halfway between the eyebrows and chin, and the edge of an expressionless mouth lines up with each pupil.  It's a good start though, just keep on practicing.


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: KiZ on June 10, 2004, 05:26:46 PM
I think its very good. The proportions are all wrong, but then again, look at most popular cartoons in the newspaper. Usually the proportions are all wrong, but that doesnt stop the picture being good art.


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Ninkazu on June 10, 2004, 10:06:14 PM
Quote from: "dark_prevail"
I think its very good.

This is where my harsh but true opinion must come in.

It sucks. Don't post this kind of crap anymore. Thank you.


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Dr_Davenstein on June 10, 2004, 11:11:13 PM
Hey, I know that guy!

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Obviously, I'm special and I like you drawing. :wink:


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: oracle on June 11, 2004, 01:06:25 AM
Quote from: "Ninkazu"
This is where my harsh but true opinion must come in.

It sucks. Don't post this kind of crap anymore. Thank you.


Here's where my harsh but true opinion must come in.

He's learning. Nobody else minds. Grow up. Thank you.


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Ninkazu on June 11, 2004, 03:01:54 AM
Quote from: "oracle"
He's learning. Nobody else minds. Grow up. Thank you.

He should learn on somebody else's bandwidth. I don't care if nobody else minds, it's my opinion. I know many grown ups who tear people down.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to pick up my dry cleaning. Troll costumes are surprisingly delicate.


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: KiZ on June 11, 2004, 07:51:01 AM
Quote from: "Ninkazu"
This is where my harsh but true opinion must come in.

It sucks. Don't post this kind of crap anymore. Thank you.


Hmm. was that directed at me or Zack?

And if he should "learn on someone else's bandwidth" then why the hell did you click on this thread. You FREAK. Not that you didnt already know that...
Dont worry I dont have anything personal against you yet. (not that you probably care)


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Zap on June 11, 2004, 10:08:25 AM
Wether it's good or not would depend on wether you were trying to do a comic character, or something that looked like a real life man.

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Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Zack on June 11, 2004, 10:59:41 AM
Quote from: "Ninkazu"
Quote from: "dark_prevail"
I think its very good.

This is where my harsh but true opinion must come in.

It sucks. Don't post this kind of crap anymore. Thank you.
Nice critique. :)
Ignore Nink...actually Ninkazu. He doesn't deserve a short form. Anyway, ignore him, he's The Eternally Negative. :wink:

Zap: Well, I wasn't trying to make it look like a real person. I mean, I was, but I didn't expect it to come out exactly in the likeness of man. I personally think it looks more detailed thank comic-strip people, but that's just my self-inflated, bloated, egotistical opinion.

I'd continue to discredit Ninkazu, but I think that homemade ginger-ale got unexpectadly alcoholic over night...*Dizzy*
Thanks for all the comments, people. Oh, not you Ninkazu.


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Mech1031 on June 11, 2004, 08:25:06 PM
My opinions:

Head is too narrow
Forehead is too prominent
Nose is a little flat
lack of chin.

thats about it i guess.  and the changes you should make shouldn't be drastic, just slight (with the exception of the chin thing).


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: adosorken on June 11, 2004, 09:13:06 PM
Sheesh, you people still can't see the fact that Ninkazu is messing with you in a very harsh albeit humorous way? Wow. :D At least I get it...but then again, I also understood Scrye's rambling about pie and pants, so...bleh. :P :rotfl:


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: oracle on June 13, 2004, 07:31:30 PM
^^^ The humour is lost without a smiley ;)


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: adosorken on June 14, 2004, 01:23:41 AM
Quote from: "oracle"
^^^ The humour is lost without a smiley ;)

Envision the smiley...and it will be there. :D


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Jofers on June 15, 2004, 11:26:42 PM
ANYWAYS... While most popular cartoons are distorted, you'll notice that most of the artists can draw very accurately before they draw stylishly.  I've seen cartoons that look nothing realistic, but occasionally show off their art talent by throwing in a very well drawn picture or portrait.  It happens all the time.

Anyways... don't mind Nin, he's slowing becoming an curmugdeon :)  Show us the next drawing so we can see how it's coming!


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Mech1031 on June 15, 2004, 11:39:57 PM
my personal favorite artist would have to be Bill Watterson (the guy who draws calvin & hobbes).  he has got to be the only 'good' cartoonist with a degree in political science.  but as you can clearly see, he draws his figures in-preportionately:

(http://www.pearl-jam.com/misc/calvhob.jpg)

that doesn't make him a bad artis (look at the scenery), its just his style for drawing comics.


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: whitetiger0990 on June 15, 2004, 11:46:12 PM
Yup I sure love Calvin and Hobbes.. It's very well done.  :D


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: speedlemon on June 16, 2004, 10:40:20 AM
there was this one time. where i stole one of the calvin and hobbes books from my teacher just to read for 15 minutes. it was a riot!  :rotfl:


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Zack on June 16, 2004, 02:15:44 PM
Quote from: "Jofers"
ANYWAYS... While most popular cartoons are distorted, you'll notice that most of the artists can draw very accurately before they draw stylishly.  I've seen cartoons that look nothing realistic, but occasionally show off their art talent by throwing in a very well drawn picture or portrait.  It happens all the time.

Anyways... don't mind Nin, he's slowing becoming an curmugdeon :)  Show us the next drawing so we can see how it's coming!
First I have to find my pencil. :wink:


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Mech1031 on June 16, 2004, 04:37:33 PM
Quote
First I have to find my pencil.


i cannot stand when that happens.  thats why my pocket is filled with 40 some odd pencils all the time.  once you really get into drawing, you'l  carry pencils like they were house keys :wink:


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Zack on June 16, 2004, 07:43:53 PM
I was using a 3HB nicely toned stick, and now I lost it...


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Mech1031 on June 16, 2004, 08:32:31 PM
you were using a 3HB?  wow, i always use 1HB, sometimes 2HB.  what brand of pencil do you use anyway?  i know alot of people like ticonderoga, but my personal favorite is Prisma.  they just give the soft, undertoned look with very accurate detail.


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: adosorken on June 16, 2004, 08:43:44 PM
Whenever I draw, I use Prisma pencils. But a large box is quite expensive if you're buying Prismacolors (which is what I like to draw with). I can remember spending well over $100 on a box of 130-something a few years ago...

Btw Zack...the pic looks like Osama bin-Laden. :D


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Jofers on June 17, 2004, 12:32:26 PM
Bah... I've never liked drawing pencils.  They're nice and all, but it's not like you can't make a good drawing with a plain number two.  Hell, I use mechanical for most of my doodles.

Mech1301: Watterson's my favorite cartoon artist too.  I *love* Calvin and Hobbes :)  He was actually who I had in mind when I said that most cartoonists learn to draw accurately before they learn to draw stylishly.


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Plasma on June 17, 2004, 02:44:07 PM
Mechanical pencils are teh suxxor for sketching. :P


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Mech1031 on June 17, 2004, 04:53:40 PM
i actually use a standard 2HB Eagle USA pencil (the standard of the standards for pencils) for a starting sketch, they go on nice and light and erase real easy.  then i move on to the prismas, which smudge instead of erase (the smudge makes for a great effect).


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: mddwebboy on June 17, 2004, 09:52:10 PM
I do a lot of drawing... unfortuanatly the scanner isn't connected so I can't show it (  =P   ). right now, I am doing a few drawings of viehicles for a game I might make (3d), and I am making them doing cool things, and look very old and dented, with evil looks to them as well.

The smudging from my hand does add effect, and if I want something to be super shiny, I will take a very small earaser and go over the part. if I do say so myself, I am doing well at shading for my age.  :lol:

usualy, I just use whatever pencil is nearest (for example, when I feel my teacher has been yabbering too long [and I am on the verge of sleeping], I take my pencil and earaser, and get back to work on it :) ) of course, with that I have to be carefull! My teacher caught me once, and trust me, it was not pretty  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :barf:  :barf:  :barf:


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Mech1031 on June 17, 2004, 10:00:36 PM
my favorite 'unique' art supplies for drawing are:

Q-tips
tissue
lighter
finger tip
pocket lint



 :lol:


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: mddwebboy on June 17, 2004, 10:01:17 PM
lol!


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: mddwebboy on June 17, 2004, 10:02:44 PM
If I could get my freaking scanner working, I would amaze you all (*cough*yeah*right*cough*cough*) :lol:

well, I know nothing of that sorta stuff, and dad is cranky.... or out, I haven't bothered to check :rotfl:


Title: Pencil drawing of a head: critiques...
Post by: Zack on June 18, 2004, 12:05:09 AM
Mech, I like using lighters too, to brown the paper. Unfortunately, as I ran out of fluid...I found a pencil, by the way, and I'll do some drawing tonight, I think.