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Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: Rokkuman on January 28, 2004, 05:46:17 PM
(http://68.10.114.221:81/untitled.jpg)

I made it in MSPaint, my favorite pixeling tool ever. I'd like to know if there are any major flaws on it.

If I can get this down, and looking good, I may attempt to color it in.

TBBQ: It looks like a man. Period. ;)


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: Zack on January 28, 2004, 05:57:07 PM
Cool. :D
A lot better than I could have done in Paint...


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: potato on January 28, 2004, 06:08:47 PM
using freehand tool?
use the line tool and work slower, gives you more control.

the ear should be a little closer to the jaw... almost attach it

don't forget the eyebrows! they make it a little more real!

you kinda pulled the neck to the side a lot.
It's good that you kept it outside of the jaw and ear apex, but it's very far making it look thick

i think you were working in a rectangle, ie, you made the imagesize first and then drew in it. that explains the squished look of the face. use a guideline if you're going to preset the size of your image, that way you aren't forced to squish it. Also, don't be afraid to cut off parts of the image. you don't need the whole head in a portrait (i'm assuming you're making a portrait for an rpg?)

nice to see an aspiring artist


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: toonski84 on January 29, 2004, 04:19:15 PM
Well, as much as anime loves to depict it that way, noses are not flimsy peices of paper sprouting out of the center of a face like a fishhook.  Admittingly, they're the hardest part to learn, because they're so 3d, but every time you draw a triangle nose, God kills a kitten.

Now, I want you to try something.  Just a little bit.  And that is to draw a proper, realistic portrait.  It's a big secret in cartooning, but everyone animator and cartoon artist in the world can draw a realistic portrait.  It is because of this that that they can stretch and bend what they want at will and draw at different angles without messing up the picture.  If you want to be a good artist, take a pencil and paper into the real world and try and draw something exactly as you see it, and I promise you, if keep that up you'll be an awesome artist in whatever style you like because you have a lot of potential.  There's so many people I know that spent all their time drawing 3/4 views of an anime person or some kind of comic book scene, but never got past that and never learned to draw that style flexibly.  

Now, that aside, the good things.  I wish I had some of your old stuff to drag out because this is an awesome improvement.  While the skull is still a little cut off, the eyes and other features are about in the proper place, there's a sense of 3d and it's cool looking.  my main crit is that the ears are akward.  I'd try erasing that whole part, redrawing the ear and drawing the hair over it.  

http://graphics.stanford.edu/projects/mich/more-david/david-ear-s.jpg

there's michaelango's david's ear, if you need a reference :D

It's looking sharp, I'm impressed :)


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: KiZ on January 29, 2004, 05:41:26 PM
Quote from: "toonski84"
every time you draw a triangle nose, God kills a kitten.


 :o  Huuuuuh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?  :o

Ahhhhhhhhhh!!! The Poor kitties!!! There must be none left in Japan!!!!!


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: potato on January 29, 2004, 06:09:29 PM
the ones that are left are highly radioactive freaks due to toxic fish, seriously


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: aardvark on January 30, 2004, 06:54:10 AM
Can they stop time?


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: KiZ on January 30, 2004, 07:55:26 AM
You mean like Blinx?


Title: Re: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: TheBigBasicQ on January 30, 2004, 08:46:38 AM
Quote from: "Rockuman"
TBBQ: It looks like a man. Period. ;)


omg, I harassed you in your Chun-Li thread didnt I =P

Anyway, the pic that you have doesnt look like a man! It looks like a head! A boy's head =P.

BTW I happened to notice, there arent any eyebrows =)


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: aardvark on February 01, 2004, 07:57:54 AM
Quote
You mean like Blinx?


No, I was just wondering if radioactive things, cats or even radioactive cats in general could stop time.


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: KiZ on February 01, 2004, 05:31:35 PM
Oh. I thought you might be talking about Blinx: Time Sweeper, who is a cat that can stop time, and even reverse it... =D


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: TheBigBasicQ on February 02, 2004, 12:09:31 PM
Radioactive cats?  :rotfl:


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: aardvark on February 03, 2004, 07:44:13 AM
Quote
Oh. I thought you might be talking about Blinx: Time Sweeper, who is a cat that can stop time, and even reverse it... =D


Yeah, I've played that... in Kmart, for about two minutes  :roll: .


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: KiZ on February 04, 2004, 07:26:38 AM
Lol. Never played it, but I heard its supposed to be good.


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: TheBigBasicQ on February 04, 2004, 12:28:43 PM
What is it about?


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: KiZ on February 04, 2004, 01:18:44 PM
(http://www.toysnjoys.com/xbox/blinx.jpg)

A crazy cat called Blinx here (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/blinxthetimesweeper/review.html)


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: TheBigBasicQ on February 04, 2004, 02:50:31 PM
Hehe, great =P


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: Rokkuman on February 04, 2004, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: "TheBigBasicQ"
Hehe, great =P


YOU, shoosh. Don't post anymore in this thread until you can write something interesting/funny/worthy.

Anyhoo, I went by toonski's advice, and I tried drawing a real head... I've got truckloads of practice to do...


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: TheBigBasicQ on February 04, 2004, 04:58:44 PM
Quote from: "Rockuman"
YOU, shoosh. Don't post anymore in this thread until you can write something interesting/funny/worthy.

Anyhoo, I went by toonski's advice, and I tried drawing a real head... I've got truckloads of practice to do...


That wasnt a very interesting/funny/worthy post was it?


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: Rokkuman on February 04, 2004, 05:01:29 PM
Quote from: "TheBigBasicQ"
Quote from: "Rockuman"
YOU, shoosh. Don't post anymore in this thread until you can write something interesting/funny/worthy.

Anyhoo, I went by toonski's advice, and I tried drawing a real head... I've got truckloads of practice to do...


That wasnt a very interesting/funny/worthy post was it?


Yes, it was worthy enough. I told you to stop spamming, and I told others that I have practice to do with drawing realistic heads (which can be perceived as "funny", if you wanna look at it that way).


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: oracle on February 04, 2004, 07:04:30 PM
Oi, keep ontopic guys or I'll have to start moderating, and you know how bad I am at that ;)

The topic is Rockuman's picture, if anyone's forgotten.


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: TheBigBasicQ on February 05, 2004, 01:25:03 AM
Quote from: "oracle"
Oi, keep ontopic guys or I'll have to start moderating, and you know how bad I am at that ;)

The topic is Rockuman's picture, if anyone's forgotten.


He hasnt updated it, so the thread was bound to go off topic =P


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: Rokkuman on February 05, 2004, 07:32:22 AM
Quote from: "TheBigBasicQ"
Quote from: "oracle"
Oi, keep ontopic guys or I'll have to start moderating, and you know how bad I am at that ;)

The topic is Rockuman's picture, if anyone's forgotten.


He hasnt updated it, so the thread was bound to go off topic =P


TheBigBasicQ... please meet me in the private messaging lodge...

In any event... I won't start a whole nother thread, but I attempted a full body this time...
(http://68.10.114.221:81/animedude.gif)
I CANNOT figure the arm out!


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: KiZ on February 05, 2004, 08:34:48 AM
Quite good, but the feet are too square. The toes are not normally lined up like that, they are a diagonal line, or curve back.


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: Zack on February 05, 2004, 11:46:33 AM
? The arms are fine.


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: potato on February 05, 2004, 02:43:43 PM
have you tried flexing your own arm? knowing the position and work of muscles will help you draw a proper arm. same with the rest of the body. the art is cleaner this time, so it looks like you're using the line tool


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: TheBigBasicQ on February 05, 2004, 03:10:01 PM
Quote from: "Rockuman"
TheBigBasicQ... please meet me in the private messaging lodge...


wtf is 'private messaging lodge'?

BTW do you know the body proportions? I think they will help you while drawing a full body figure.I dont really remember it was quite a long time ago that i drew =P.


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: potato on February 05, 2004, 05:59:58 PM
he wants to rape you through phpBB's messaging system


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: TheBigBasicQ on February 06, 2004, 02:52:02 AM
He can't ;)

Rock, the chin must be below the mouth. You've drawn it sideways =P.


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: toonski84 on February 06, 2004, 03:24:34 AM
I've found that when trying to learn to draw, it's best to draw something you are looking at, so you have a basis for what to improve and a real-life example for what it should look like.  Dont stop drawing what you want, but at least try and chug through a few still lifes and portraits.


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: Rokkuman on February 06, 2004, 08:38:12 AM
Okay, the chin's fixed. I can't beleive I didn't realise that it looked like it had a bowling ball in it before...


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: TheBigBasicQ on February 06, 2004, 04:57:24 PM
[dumb boast]
See, I am the only one who actually helped you. Others are just increasing their post count =P
[/dumb boast]


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: Rokkuman on February 06, 2004, 07:03:49 PM
Quote from: "TheBigBasicQ"
[dumb boast]
See, I am the only one who actually helped you. Others are just increasing their post count =P
[/dumb boast]


................................................no..............................................

Toonski gave 0wnage advice, which I am currently taking. Potato is telling me about how I should do the arm, and dark_prevail told me about the toes, which I (attempted to) fixed, but I failed to acknowlege it.

Trust me, you're not the "only one" helping. That's not even worth being taken as a joke.


Title: I drew a head... question is, is it any good?
Post by: TheBigBasicQ on February 07, 2004, 06:25:03 AM
Bleh  :roll: