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Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Mark on October 27, 2005, 08:43:48 PM
The veritable behemoth, QBasic.com, shut its doors today after 6+ years of service to the QBasic community.

The previous owner or QBasic.com had last updated the website in 1999. He recently ignored or forgot to renew his domain name, which I have since acquired.

I'm requesting the help of all QBasic enthusiasts around the globe to help me rebuild QBasic.com. If you would like to help, contact me at m4rk.wilhelm@gmail.com. Thank you.


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: KiZ on October 27, 2005, 08:53:55 PM
Wow. Its about time too, although Im not sure how many people have enough enthusiasim, we are mostly FB developers these days :)

Well, whatever you do, do it good ;)


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: marinedalek on October 27, 2005, 09:06:32 PM
Hope you don't mind some free publicity! I've posted a link to here on most of the major QB and FB sites to give you the best chance of getting support. By the way, the "official" QBASIC forum is at http://www.network54.com/Forum/13959/ and they're a little bemused about the site going, and a bit put out that there isn't a link to the forum anymore (they were linked to from QBASIC.com) - if you could put up a redirect page linking to them they'd be grateful, until the site's ready to go.

Glad to see the old girl's getting a makeover at last!


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: MystikShadows on October 27, 2005, 09:31:54 PM
Looking at QBasicNews, Pete's QB site, and other other popular websites.  Anything really stopping putting FB in QBASIC.COM? :-)...


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Mark on October 27, 2005, 09:32:49 PM
Thanks everybody! I've already made a temporary splash page so people doesn't get too disoriented. I put a link on it to the unofficial "official" QBasic forums, just to make them happy. The DNS should complete propogation sometime tomorrow (hopefully). In the meantime, one good soul mirrored the old QBasic.com. Here ya go!

http://qbasic.us.to/


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: dumbledore on October 27, 2005, 11:40:05 PM
yes, it's about time that site got a remake, i agree, but it would be nice for it to have a link to some freebasic stuff as well, since that's where most of the qb community went once they got windoze xp and found out qb support was severely lacking...  :wink:  can't wait to see how it turns out though!


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2005, 12:19:42 AM
yes. the qb era has turned over to fb.

do yourself a favor and embrace it


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: dumbledore on October 28, 2005, 01:45:15 AM
seeing as it is qbasic.com though, and there already is a freebasic.net (we don't really need two ;) ), maybe you can make a qb section for the qb nuts and a fb section for the rest?  :wink:


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: matthewr2_1 on October 28, 2005, 03:20:29 AM
Quote from: "Mark"
Thanks everybody! I've already made a temporary splash page so people doesn't get too disoriented. I put a link on it to the unofficial "official" QBasic forums, just to make them happy. The DNS should complete propogation sometime tomorrow (hopefully). In the meantime, one good soul mirrored the old QBasic.com. Here ya go!

http://qbasic.us.to/


I am that good soul ;-)


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: sid67 on October 28, 2005, 04:43:06 AM
i actually have the whole thing downloaded from a few weeks
or months ago....ready to go if you want it...not real BIG
but like 10+ megs or so...


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: sid67 on October 28, 2005, 04:45:41 AM
Quote from: "Cha0s"
yes. the qb era has turned over to fb.

do yourself a favor and embrace it


nooooooooo dont go to the darkside...  :barf:


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: NecrosIhsan on October 28, 2005, 08:26:46 AM
There is no need for qbasic.com to cover FB. There are already enough sites out there that do that. qbasic.com is supposed to be for qbasic and qbasic only, although links to FB sites wouldn't be such a bad thing either...some education as to the "evolved" version of qb that is fb is a good idea. :)


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: matt2jones on October 28, 2005, 08:41:26 AM
Seriously, why do you all keep talking about them as if they're two different languages?

None of you would be using FB unless it wasn't so inexorably linked to QB (look at Darkbasic and LibertyBasic's following...  Or even VB's).

Making a site dedicated to only QB programs or FB programs makes as much sense as having a site only for QB1.1 programs, or only Qb programs using the Blast or Dash libs...

It's way to obscure for a domain like Qbasic.com

---

QB followers = GWBasic/Comodore64/SpectrumBasic -> QB1.1 -> Qb4.5 -> QB7.<whatever> -> FB
It's just a chronology of updates for christ sake!

The only reason everyone is so picky about "I'm an FB coder now, not a QB coder" is because it's new, and your all still high on the initial buzz of finding it.  In a couple of years your all gonna look back at what ye said and feel really embarassed....

matt - shamelessly inciting violence


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Mark on October 28, 2005, 09:10:16 AM
I'm still rehashing the purpose of QBasic.com in my head. When it first re-launches it should specialize in QB. Once the community grows to a respectable size FB might be integrated. No promises.


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: matthewr2_1 on October 28, 2005, 09:58:08 PM
Quote from: "matt2jones"
matt - shamelessly inciting violence


shamelessly inciting violence?!?! WTF?


Title: Great Timing!
Post by: TecBrat on October 29, 2005, 08:21:30 PM
I stumbled upon this thread while searching for something else. What a thrill to get in on the (new) beginning of something.

The qbasic communtiy has far outpaced my keeping up with it, but I still love the old stuff. A previous post mentioned the C=64 which was my first computer. I am all about the nostalgia of it.  I'd love to see what "modern" stuff we can do with it also.

I eagerly await the development of the site.

(the "something else" I was searching for was an interpreter I can install on my webserver to allow qbasic or qbasic-like code to execute on a webpage. I am completly clueless as to if this is possible.)


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 29, 2005, 09:20:16 PM
wait it still be a good idea to have qbasc.com have FB material along with QB stuff.  main reason for this like it or not Qbasic.com was the main gateway for newbies coming into qbasic because of the domain name.


so promoting FB as a win32/Linux/dos32 replacement or at least upgrade would bring a larger user base into the FB community.


as it stands FB as great as it is, is still lost in the ocean of other basic dialects (just google Basic Compilers. FB does show up but it not the top of the list)  having qbaisc.com promoting it would redirect more newbies to us.


also mark you have to remember the FB community isn't a separated community. it is the QB community, you should think of it like a child that has grown up.

so you can't really separated the two there connected at the core.


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: VonGodric on October 29, 2005, 10:16:24 PM
I don't think that QBasic and FreeBasic should be treated that seperately -after all FreeBasic is born from qbasic and it's qommunity. Is desgined for best compability with QBasic as is possible. And the result is that lots of QB sources work under FB with no modification at all or require minor changes.

Therefore I feel that FreeBasic should be treated as successor to QBasic and not entirely seperated from it. It extends the language and brings QBasic to the 21st century: Native Linux, Windows and dos versions -allow it to use on far greater range of systems, it's 32bit architecture gives a great speedburst and removes memory limitations that QBasic has lounged for all these many years, great range of professional apis and libraries that already exist for FreeBasic makes it even more attractive. And not to mention new features and concepts it has introduced. And yet it has remained just as simple as qbasic. If not even simpler.

Why I'm saying all this is: many people who search for qbasic find this site first -it is listed in top of many search engines and naturally get's lots of traffic. Qbasic is old ( face it people ) in a few years with next windows it won't probably even work anymore under windows. Wich will make it truly extinct. And if there is alternative? Why not?

I'm not clmaiming that QBasic.com should host 100% FreeBasic -my believe is it would be best if this site would serve as a museum site of qbasic and be dedicated for qbasic -but have a recomendatory reference to FreeBasic as prefered successor.

One more reason is a legal point of view. QBasic is not free and posting it for download anywhere is illegal. FreeBasic is free for download and any kind of use. Including for producing commercial software on it.

About your claims to VisualBasic -VisualBasic is too different and enirely different entity on its own. Therefore cannot be taken seriously -from the standpoint of QBasic and being it's successor.


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: rpgfan3233 on October 30, 2005, 12:13:29 AM
Quote from: "ShadowWolf"
so promoting FB as a win32/Linux/dos32 replacement or at least upgrade would bring a larger user base into the FB community.

A larger FB user base would be great because people who use older operating systems PURELY for QB goodness would have no reason to not upgrade operating systems. After all, FB should be close enough to QB, so why not? This doesn't only promote FB, but it also allows QBers to upgrade to a 32-bit version of QB without changing the familiar syntax.


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Sumo Jo on October 30, 2005, 04:37:26 PM
This arguement over whether to choose qb or fb is about as reasonable as arguing between which compiler to use for qb.  With each sequential compiler came a few new features and changes from the last.  FB is the same way.  It's based on the same code with only a few changes to the original and set in a new compiler.  All fb is, is the same as any upgrade from one of the previous compilers was.  

So for all you qb zealots,  why not stick to only 1.1?


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Kevin_theprogrammer on October 30, 2005, 05:59:51 PM
Devote 1/2 the site to QB, the other FB...


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2005, 03:44:37 AM
Quote
One more reason is a legal point of view. QBasic is not free and posting it for download anywhere is illegal. FreeBasic is free for download and any kind of use. Including for producing commercial software on it.


i agree with that. fb is like our way to stick it to 'the man' ;P


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: dumbledore on October 31, 2005, 05:10:48 PM
Quote from: "Sumo Jo"
So for all you qb zealots,  why not stick to only 1.1?

more like 1.0....  :roll:


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Oz on October 31, 2005, 06:45:59 PM
a small suggestion:

qbasic.com should have a freebasic section
to further this point, we should have a page on it called "the history of basic" using qbasicnews and the old qbasic.com as a reference to the community.

basically, our past is q/quickbasic, our present is freebasic.

yes, there are still q/quickbasic programmers out there, but to face facts, most OSes don't agree with high-DOS funcionality.  I ahve nothing against programming in qbasic, though.

I think qbasic as our heritage is important, but fb is our present (and possibly future)

oz~


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Z!re on October 31, 2005, 08:24:48 PM
You people take this way to seriously..

Mark, good luck remaking Qbasic.com.. I hope you manage to turn it into a hub of BASIC knowledge..


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2005, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: "Z!re"
You people take this way to seriously..


troll! ;P


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: Kevin_theprogrammer on October 31, 2005, 09:56:47 PM
The only way you'll win this argument is to comprimise:
subdirectory for FB...
subdirectory for QB...

Each with its seperate forums...now get to work on that site ASAP!


Title: QBasic.com under new management!
Post by: v3cz0r on November 01, 2005, 01:10:30 AM
It's quite simple, let freebasic.net be the FB home with forums, tutorials and such and qbasic.com be the QB one (besides qbasicnews, qb45 and such, obviously :P), without one pretending the other doesn't exist, like the current "official" qbasic.com forum does - that's the reason i didn't add any links to qbasic.com, other than its living-dead state that lasted for years.

Without QB, FreeBASIC would never exist and without FB, QuickBASIC may would become a museum figure or a toy for emulator aficionados.

Both sites link to each other and we are done.. The FB site popularity is coming closer to qbasic one (see alexa.com), nobody will "steal" users from nobody.

Every single person that contributed to FB came or used to be from the QB community, that's not like we created a commercial alternative just to milk QB, spamming it all around. The whole project has over 100K lines of BASIC and C code, i would like to see the "don't join the dark side" people doing a better contribution to QB, besides playing the poor victim or the crazy terrorist one. Dunno, create a text-mode QB-IDE clone, help making FB more compatible, just bitching in forums won't help nada.


Title: Re: Great Timing!
Post by: TecBrat on September 30, 2014, 05:05:26 PM
I stumbled upon this thread while searching for something else...

Wow how time flies!

I haven't done anything with QBasic since I posted this. Been too busy with life.
My personal website, www.tecbrat.com (http://www.tecbrat.com), has become my business site. I'm now a business owner and a Web Developer.